I'd rather listen to MFC than most of PJ's newer songs but for the time it was kind of bland and boring.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
I've always liked MFC. But I've always liked Pilate, too. I didn't know I was supposed to dislike Pilate until the internet. I know this place can seem uber contrarian sometimes, but the really the fact that so many here actually LIKED Pilate is one of the big reasons I started to frequent the board, and ultimately post.
In hiding sounds like a typical big anthem that they sort of gave up on and put it in the back, but that may be why I like it. Compared to Given To Fly, which sounds kinda overwrought and ill fitting on the record. In Hiding fits.
I think Pilate is so strange to me because the lyrics are so deeply surreal, opaque and relatively unemotional. The rest of the album really makes an effort to pull on heart strings and Pilate just laughs at you like a hipster because you just don't get it.
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Strat wrote:The guitar interplay int he chorus of Pilate is fantastic and if you dont agree you can suck a bag of dicks.
The guitar interplay in the chorus is a G chord and an A sharp chord. Nothing groundbreaking, and it certainly doesn't save the repeated "like pilate I have a dog" over and over again. And I agree that its unnecessarily jarring, because the verses have a nice chill guitar vibe and cool lyrics.
"Walks me out of town, Still, ones a crowd, Making angels in the dirt, Looking up, looking all around...LIKE PILATE I HAVE A DOG!!! LIKE PILATE I HAVE A DOG! etc..
You hear the two guitars playing off each other and not all hammering away at the same time. You hear some pull offs. One guitar plays, the other answers. Its really nicely done for a two chord structured chorus.
Strat wrote:The guitar interplay int he chorus of Pilate is fantastic and if you dont agree you can suck a bag of dicks.
The guitar interplay in the chorus is a G chord and an A sharp chord. Nothing groundbreaking, and it certainly doesn't save the repeated "like pilate I have a dog" over and over again. And I agree that its unnecessarily jarring, because the verses have a nice chill guitar vibe and cool lyrics.
"Walks me out of town, Still, ones a crowd, Making angels in the dirt, Looking up, looking all around...LIKE PILATE I HAVE A DOG!!! LIKE PILATE I HAVE A DOG! etc..
You hear the two guitars playing off each other and not all hammering away at the same time. You hear some pull offs. One guitar plays, the other answers. Its really nicely done for a two chord structured chorus.
That interplay / riff is kind of like what they did on Glorified G, actually.
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The only song I could do without is Wishlist. For a song so reliant on its lyrics, they don't say anything interesting or beautiful. They are ultimately a hindrance, which is a shame, because the guitar stuff is pretty nice throughout.
I love Pilate. I shoud've said that. I also love everything about Wishlist but yeah yeah yeah.
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durdencommatyler wrote:I've always liked MFC. But I've always liked Pilate, too. I didn't know I was supposed to dislike Pilate until the internet. I know this place can seem uber contrarian sometimes, but the really the fact that so many here actually LIKED Pilate is one of the big reasons I started to frequent the board, and ultimately post.
BurtReynolds wrote:In hiding sounds like a typical big anthem that they sort of gave up on and put it in the back, but that may be why I like it. Compared to Given To Fly, which sounds kinda overwrought and ill fitting on the record. In Hiding fits.