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nice pic B :haha:


almost any and every time travel story opens up more cans of worms and questions then they ever intended to answer
I mean hell, Wolverine could have just gone back into time to say, 1950 and killed Trasks parents, that is what he was best at doing round that time after all lol
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MadTIGERmaN wrote:almost any and every time travel story opens up more cans of worms and questions then they ever intended to answer
I mean hell, Wolverine could have just gone back into time to say, 1950 and killed Trasks parents, that is what he was best at doing round that time after all lol
It's only a problem when either the people telling the story are too stupid to consider this issue, or they assume their audience is too stupid to think of it on their own.

Once you become aware of it, it's incredibly easy to toss a few lines of dialog in that establish limitations. Sort of like how keeping Wolverine in the present, with just his mind in the past, connected him to the background tension the oncoming robot attack provided.
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MadTIGERmaN wrote:almost any and every time travel story opens up more cans of worms and questions then they ever intended to answer
I mean hell, Wolverine could have just gone back into time to say, 1950 and killed Trasks parents, that is what he was best at doing round that time after all lol
It's only a problem when either the people telling the story are too stupid to consider this issue, or they assume their audience is too stupid to think of it on their own.

Once you become aware of it, it's incredibly easy to toss a few lines of dialog in that establish limitations. Sort of like how keeping Wolverine in the present, with just his mind in the past, connected him to the background tension the oncoming robot attack provided.
I don't know if I can judge them that harshly. There are time restraints to the medium. Also, answering THOSE questions will create NEW questions, and then you're on down a rabbit hole. I enjoyed the movie. I also enjoy poking out plotholes.

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I did appreciate that it didn't just become another Wolverine movie. It also did a good job of tying the original trilogy in with the First Class storyline, although the opening sequence exposition was unnecessary.

I liked Mystique as a character who could represent the battle between Prof X and Magneto's respective philosophies in the last flick, but it felt like they worked too hard to keep her a major player in this one. Probably the emphasis on her became a part of why they didn't have time to support Magneto's random behavior/logic shifts.

It used Halle Berry to the exact right degree.

I really wished that, at the end of the Time in a Bottle sequence, the song would have sped up to insane chipmunk speeds when the action switched back to regular pacing...just since it was playing regular while we were watching from fast guy's perspective.
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I still dont know about the end scene.
either you just put in cement certain characters living through Apocalypse, and the school still being founded, or Wolverine was actually dreaming that whole sequence while drowning. or, Cable / another time traveler story which will again alter the future? it was great to see / tie up the original cast, give them a send off, but now you either have to write the next movie with that scene in mind, OR, completely alter the time line again. Which is why you are almost better off to not open that can of worms and create more NEW questions.


I still feel really bad for Halle, or anyone playing Storm (movies or cartoons) she gets HORRIBLE Dialogue
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i think they said the next one is set in the 80s with the first class cast and some of the x-men 1-3 cast. I think the time stuff is going to be a thing now.
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MadTIGERmaN wrote:nice pic B :haha:


almost any and every time travel story opens up more cans of worms and questions then they ever intended to answer
I mean hell, Wolverine could have just gone back into time to say, 1950 and killed Trasks parents, that is what he was best at doing round that time after all lol

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@SkitchP wrote:
MadTIGERmaN wrote:nice pic B :haha:


almost any and every time travel story opens up more cans of worms and questions then they ever intended to answer
I mean hell, Wolverine could have just gone back into time to say, 1950 and killed Trasks parents, that is what he was best at doing round that time after all lol

stop. lol'ing. your. own. posts.
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Sounds like Fox is indeed planning an X-tended edition release on Blueray. Including the fight scene with Rogue
Read somewhere the first cut of the movie was well over 3 hours!
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McParadigm wrote: Probably the emphasis on her became a part of why they didn't have time to support Magneto's random behavior/logic shifts.
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MadTIGERmaN wrote:

one crazy thing I noticed it upon 2nd viewing.
Anna Paquin was the 7th actor listed in the credits, ahead of Ellen, Shawn, and just about all of the new Mutants including Quicksilver. That must be one major scene they cut out from her in the begining, other wise it seems rather odd that shes billed 7th, when shes a cameo at the end without even saying a word. Kelsey Grammer didnt even get a credit for his old Beast cameo
I saw this today and thought Paquin's spot on the credits was strange too. As for Kelsey Grammer , I wasn't sure it was him until I looked it up on IMDB, I thought they just put someone in his old mask.
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finally watched the Wolverine and enjoyed it a lot more than the Origins film. One bone (or 6 bones) to pick: the scene after the first credits alludes to days of future past and wolvie only has bone claws due the the adamantium ones being sliced off. In DoFP, he has adamantium in the "present day/future." Way to continuity error yourself, X-men!
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Mecca wrote:finally watched the Wolverine and enjoyed it a lot more than the Origins film. One bone (or 6 bones) to pick: the scene after the first credits alludes to days of future past and wolvie only has bone claws due the the adamantium ones being sliced off. In DoFP, he has adamantium in the "present day/future." Way to continuity error yourself, X-men!
I think I read they shot a scene where Magneto re-adamantium's the claws, that got cut.
It sounds like A LOT of scenes / footage shot for the future got cut as it was mostly action / didnt have much to do with the over all story. It sounds like some of the special effects companies did indeed finish the special effects on the scenes though, so hopefully all of that makes for a great X-tended cut on the DVD

That end credits scene was so great though, definitely one of my all time favs
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I think it's time to recast Magneto.

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days of future past was awesome
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spike wrote:days of future past was awesome
I only just got around to watching this over the weekend, and I agree with the above statement
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im not sure if i said so in this thread or not but Pietro's scene helping magneto escape is greatly done
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Peeps wrote:im not sure if i said so in this thread or not but Pietro's scene helping magneto escape is greatly done
best scene in the movie i'd say, especially what transpires after our heroes are fired upon.
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