Hold On from Ten sessions?!

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Hold On from Ten sessions?!

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I'm not always on top of things, but when the hell did THIS surface?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDdFzuDVdN8

Notes: Yes, this is really (and clearly) from the Ten sessions as evidenced by the drums and vocals (esp. the backing vocals)

This is as complete as the Vs. version! Way more polished than SOLAT for instance.

If this has been discussed before, feel free and link me and close, but holy shit this is crazy good.
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No, that's the Vs. version.

Edit: To be clear, there are 4 studio versions of this song (that I know of) -

Ten sessions (my link above)
Vs. sessions electric w/original vocal (your link)
Vs. sessions electric w/re-recorded vocal (Lost Dogs)
Vs. sessions acoustic (Vs. re-release)
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twoheadedboy wrote:No, that's the Vs. version.

Edit: To be clear, there are 4 studio versions of this song (that I know of) -

Ten sessions (my link above)
Vs. sessions electric w/original vocal (your link)
Vs. sessions electric w/re-recorded vocal (Lost Dogs)
Vs. sessions acoustic (Vs. re-release)
There is no "Vs. electric" version. The Lost Dogs liner notes are wrong. The link that hlniv posted is for the same version in your youtube link. The "Lost Dogs" version is the Ten Outtake with the vocals and bass re-recorded.
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I don't have the original vocals version available right now (anyone have a link on Youtube or Sound Cloud?), but I don't think that's right. Besides the differences in vocals and and drums I'm noticing, there's also...

-Drumless intro is longer (compared to Lost Dogs version, which IIRC was the same structurally as the version with the original vocals)
-I don't remember that Ed howl in the beginning either
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twoheadedboy wrote:I'm not always on top of things, but when the hell did THIS surface?
I mean, if I had to guess...
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twoheadedboy wrote:I don't have the original vocals version available right now (anyone have a link on Youtube or Sound Cloud?), but I don't think that's right. Besides the differences in vocals and and drums I'm noticing, there's also...

-Drumless intro is longer (compared to Lost Dogs version, which IIRC was the same structurally as the version with the original vocals)
-I don't remember that Ed howl in the beginning either
No, they're the same. I just overlayed them, they line up perfectly.

There are three versions
Ten outtake (PJ unreleased rarities set)
Lost Dogs (Ten outtake with re-recorded vocals/bass)
Vs. box set acoustic

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... =15&t=2031
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It was a good idea to re-record the bass. Jeff made some bizarre choices in the original.
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hlniv wrote: PJ unreleased rarities set
where can one get this collection?

edit: nevermind, i apparently have that
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It's the leak that brought us Sunburn.
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hlniv wrote:
twoheadedboy wrote:I don't have the original vocals version available right now (anyone have a link on Youtube or Sound Cloud?), but I don't think that's right. Besides the differences in vocals and and drums I'm noticing, there's also...

-Drumless intro is longer (compared to Lost Dogs version, which IIRC was the same structurally as the version with the original vocals)
-I don't remember that Ed howl in the beginning either
No, they're the same. I just overlayed them, they line up perfectly.

There are three versions
Ten outtake (PJ unreleased rarities set)
Lost Dogs (Ten outtake with re-recorded vocals/bass)
Vs. box set acoustic

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... =15&t=2031
Yep, this is correct.

It's clearly Krusen, not Abbruzzese, on drums.
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When did they re-record the vocals and bass? During the Vs. sessions? Or did they re-record that specifically for the Lost Dogs release? Jeff's bass could be from any era but the vocals on the LD version don't sound like 2003 Eddie to me.
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darthvedder81 wrote:When did they re-record the vocals and bass? During the Vs. sessions? Or did they re-record that specifically for the Lost Dogs release? Jeff's bass could be from any era but the vocals on the LD version don't sound like 2003 Eddie to me.
I'm fairly certain the additional recording was done in 2003.
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theplatypus wrote:It was a good idea to re-record the bass. Jeff made some bizarre choices in the original.
I haven't heard this recently but remember playing it once and not again due to the bass - it was like he can't hear himself in the monitor or was just screwing around trying to find a part.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:It's the leak that brought us Sunburn.
Just the very mention of the song sends my pants into a frenzy! :heartbeat:
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The Ten version of "Hold On" can now be heard here....

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... =15&t=4245
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