Re: General Pearl Jam Bitching

Post by **Sgt. Crackpot** » Fri July 11, 2014 6:15 am

Lament wrote:
One example of this happened on the 2003 North American tour. Several fans with really low Tenclub numbers (allowing them to end up with the best seats) attending multiple shows on the tour would turn their backs to the band anytime a song was played they didn’t like or deemed old hat. Even worse, these fans would cross their arms and make fun of the other fans singing and dancing along.
I have never heard this one before. Is this really true? This was the tour I attended the most shows on and was back when I avidly followed every show's reports and details online, so I'm a bit wary. I suppose I wouldn't be too surprised if it were true though.

If it is true, then that is very douchey behavior. Those assholes need to be sent to a Scott Stapp solo concert as punishment.

dimejinky99 · Post by **dimejinky99** » Fri July 11, 2014 6:19 am

it's true..there was a lot of this happenning..the band got pretty sick of the self entitlement bullshit and seeing the same faces every night with this stuff happenning.
hence the lottery system

Lament · Post by **Lament** » Fri July 11, 2014 6:20 am

Wow. That's just silly.

Iholdthepain · Post by **Iholdthepain** » Fri July 11, 2014 6:37 am

dimejinky99 wrote:it's true..there was a lot of this happenning..the band got pretty sick of the self entitlement bullshit and seeing the same faces every night with this stuff happenning hence the lottery system

I wonder if THIS is the result of "entitlement bullshit"... or just some really fucking BAD wine. You can tell Ed wants to fuck something (or someone) up with that bottle, but Hey, it's not 1994 anymore:

McParadigm · Post by **McParadigm** » Fri July 11, 2014 10:58 am

dimejinky99 wrote:it's true..there was a lot of this happenning..the band got pretty sick of the self entitlement bullshit and seeing the same faces every night with this stuff happenning.
hence the lottery system

Ahh, yes. The old "punish the class for the behavior of a few" routine.

Cooler, cleverer people would have responded by just playing exactly those songs twice at every show.

Birds in Hell · Post by **Birds in Hell** » Fri July 11, 2014 11:11 am

Lament wrote:
One example of this happened on the 2003 North American tour. Several fans with really low Tenclub numbers (allowing them to end up with the best seats) attending multiple shows on the tour would turn their backs to the band anytime a song was played they didn’t like or deemed old hat. Even worse, these fans would cross their arms and make fun of the other fans singing and dancing along.
I have never heard this one before. Is this really true? This was the tour I attended the most shows on and was back when I avidly followed every show's reports and details online, so I'm a bit wary. I suppose I wouldn't be too surprised if it were true though.

I've never heard of this before either.

I do recall Tim Bierman was reported to have moaned to some fans at one of the East Coast 2006 shows that the band were disappointed in the audience's generally muted reaction to the then-new songs from the self-titled record in contrast to how enthusiastic they were about any rarer, older songs that were played.

broken iris · Post by **broken iris** » Fri July 11, 2014 11:51 am

dimejinky99 wrote:it's true..there was a lot of this happenning..the band got pretty sick of the self entitlement bullshit and seeing the same faces every night with this stuff happenning.
hence the lottery system

Has it really made a difference? In 2013 I still saw the same 20-30 people in the front of every GA line and the same people walking out with copies of the setlists, pics, drum sticks, etc. And now with all this direct fan interaction during the show it's just gonna be worse. How many fucked up parents are now dragging their kids into GA for a chance to live vicariously through them when Ed gives the kid a mention on stage?

Post by **stip** » Fri July 11, 2014 12:39 pm

dimejinky99 wrote:this is a great read
http://matadornetwork.com/nights/how-to ... pearl-jam/

what an odd article for someone to write

Post by B » Fri July 11, 2014 2:47 pm

stip wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:this is a great read
http://matadornetwork.com/nights/how-to ... pearl-jam/
what an odd article for someone to write

"Brag about getting Tenclub tickets when everyone else is getting a “503” error." Man, did I enjoy the 2011 sabotage.

broken iris · Post by **broken iris** » Fri July 11, 2014 3:42 pm

B wrote:
stip wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:this is a great read
http://matadornetwork.com/nights/how-to ... pearl-jam/
what an odd article for someone to write
"Brag about getting Tenclub tickets when everyone else is getting a “503” error." Man, did I enjoy the 2011 sabotage.

I already apologized for that.

dprival78 · Post by **dprival78** » Fri July 11, 2014 5:39 pm

Iholdthepain wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:it's true..there was a lot of this happenning..the band got pretty sick of the self entitlement bullshit and seeing the same faces every night with this stuff happenning hence the lottery system
I wonder if THIS is the result of "entitlement bullshit"... or just some really fucking BAD wine. You can tell Ed wants to fuck something (or someone) up with that bottle, but Hey, it's not 1994 anymore:

Spoiler: show

did someone fill that bottle with orange gatorade when eddie wanted fruit punch?

McParadigm · Post by **McParadigm** » Fri July 11, 2014 5:42 pm

Iholdthepain wrote:I wonder if THIS is the result of "entitlement bullshit"... or just some really fucking BAD wine. You can tell Ed wants to fuck something (or someone) up with that bottle, but Hey, it's not 1994 anymore:

He is acting pretty entitled right there.

Coach · Post by **Coach** » Fri July 11, 2014 6:09 pm

Lament wrote:
One example of this happened on the 2003 North American tour. Several fans with really low Tenclub numbers (allowing them to end up with the best seats) attending multiple shows on the tour would turn their backs to the band anytime a song was played they didn’t like or deemed old hat. Even worse, these fans would cross their arms and make fun of the other fans singing and dancing along.
I have never heard this one before. Is this really true? This was the tour I attended the most shows on and was back when I avidly followed every show's reports and details online, so I'm a bit wary. I suppose I wouldn't be too surprised if it were true though.

Man, I was in or close to the front row a few times during this time period and never saw any of this, but I'm curious to know if it's true. Of course, the answer is out there, as they had plenty of cameras rolling on the crowd. Would love to see some screenshots of a fan in the front row with his/her back to Ed.

McParadigm · Post by **McParadigm** » Fri July 11, 2014 6:18 pm

Coach wrote:Man, I was in or close to the front row a few times during this time period and never saw any of this

Was, perhaps, your back turned to it?????

CopperTom · Post by **CopperTom** » Fri July 11, 2014 6:45 pm

Coach wrote:
Lament wrote:
One example of this happened on the 2003 North American tour. Several fans with really low Tenclub numbers (allowing them to end up with the best seats) attending multiple shows on the tour would turn their backs to the band anytime a song was played they didn’t like or deemed old hat. Even worse, these fans would cross their arms and make fun of the other fans singing and dancing along.
I have never heard this one before. Is this really true? This was the tour I attended the most shows on and was back when I avidly followed every show's reports and details online, so I'm a bit wary. I suppose I wouldn't be too surprised if it were true though.
Man, I was in or close to the front row a few times during this time period and never saw any of this, but I'm curious to know if it's true. Of course, the answer is out there, as they had plenty of cameras rolling on the crowd. Would love to see some screenshots of a fan in the front row with his/her back to Ed.

I've seen people acting like an orchestra conductor before. I attributed that to drunkenness or wierdness, not duchebagness.

Last year in Seattle, I heard a story about Seattle 09 that involved fans reading a newspaper during songs they weren't interested in.

The worst that I've seen was MSG 08 (I think) a fan and his friend did murder / suicide with his finger gun during Last Kiss. I giggled.

E.H. Ruddock · Post by **E.H. Ruddock** » Fri July 11, 2014 7:25 pm

CopperTom wrote: Last year in Seattle, I heard a story about Seattle 09 that involved fans reading a newspaper during songs they weren't interested in.

I was at both Seattle 09 shows and I didn't see any of that. I might have been too excited and not paying attention though because I saw Sir-Mix-A-Lot at one of the shows.

Coach · Post by **Coach** » Fri July 11, 2014 7:57 pm

McParadigm wrote:
Coach wrote:Man, I was in or close to the front row a few times during this time period and never saw any of this
Was, perhaps, your back turned to it?????

Perhaps! I'll file a FOIA - Freedom of Information Act - so that we can get a hold of the video tape to investigate.

Lament · Post by **Lament** » Sat July 12, 2014 12:59 am

Post by **Sgt. Crackpot** » Sat July 12, 2014 1:16 am

Lament · Post by **Lament** » Sat July 12, 2014 1:17 am

Jeff was the original jaded Pearl Jam fan.