2013 NFL Offseason

[Harry Lime]

What is the appeal with Todd Haley? After the steeler offense's dismal performance this year, I'd figure people would realize that there is nothing special in the man.

[Dr. Van Nostrand]

What is the appeal with Todd Haley? After the steeler offense's dismal performance this year, I'd figure people would realize that there is nothing special in the man.

who all is looking at him? ive heard that Arizona asked to interview him, but he was the OC there when they went to the Superbowl, and is said to have a good relationship with the owner. but he is also supposed to just be a real hard ass and the players didnt seem to have any respect for him in KC, so i would be surprised if anyone other then Arizona is looking at him

[Harry Lime]

What is the appeal with Todd Haley? After the steeler offense's dismal performance this year, I'd figure people would realize that there is nothing special in the man.

who all is looking at him? ive heard that Arizona asked to interview him, but he was the OC there when they went to the Superbowl, and is said to have a good relationship with the owner. but he is also supposed to just be a real hard ass and the players didnt seem to have any respect for him in KC, so i would be surprised if anyone other then Arizona is looking at him

I'm probably referring to Arizona's interest. But if they want him they can have him, I guess.

It won't happen, but I think Gruden should coach Chicago. It seems like a perfect fit. It would be bad for Green Bay, but I'm really sick of listening to him on Monday nights.

[Dr. Van Nostrand]

What is the appeal with Todd Haley? After the steeler offense's dismal performance this year, I'd figure people would realize that there is nothing special in the man.

who all is looking at him? ive heard that Arizona asked to interview him, but he was the OC there when they went to the Superbowl, and is said to have a good relationship with the owner. but he is also supposed to just be a real hard ass and the players didnt seem to have any respect for him in KC, so i would be surprised if anyone other then Arizona is looking at him

I'm probably referring to Arizona's interest. But if they want him they can have him, I guess.

It won't happen, but I think Gruden should coach Chicago. It seems like a perfect fit. It would be bad for Green Bay, but I'm really sick of listening to him on Monday nights.

i feel like he has been waiting for a certain job, which i thought was either Philly, SD or Chicago, and they are all open this year, would have thought he would be interviewing with all of them already. philly makes less sense since they arent set at QB like SD and Chicago seem to be, but always thought he would wanna go back since he was OC there. and i want gruden off monday night football just because i hate him with a passion he wont a Superbowl for my Bucs but he did it with Tony's team, then ran them into the ground afterwords.

[Harry Lime]

What is the appeal with Todd Haley? After the steeler offense's dismal performance this year, I'd figure people would realize that there is nothing special in the man.

who all is looking at him? ive heard that Arizona asked to interview him, but he was the OC there when they went to the Superbowl, and is said to have a good relationship with the owner. but he is also supposed to just be a real hard ass and the players didnt seem to have any respect for him in KC, so i would be surprised if anyone other then Arizona is looking at him

I'm probably referring to Arizona's interest. But if they want him they can have him, I guess.

It won't happen, but I think Gruden should coach Chicago. It seems like a perfect fit. It would be bad for Green Bay, but I'm really sick of listening to him on Monday nights.

i feel like he has been waiting for a certain job, which i thought was either Philly, SD or Chicago, and they are all open this year, would have thought he would be interviewing with all of them already. philly makes less sense since they arent set at QB like SD and Chicago seem to be, but always thought he would wanna go back since he was OC there. and i want gruden off monday night football just because i hate him with a passion he wont a Superbowl for my Bucs but he did it with Tony's team, then ran them into the ground afterwords.

But not incidentally, he faced his Oakland team in the superbowl. And I do believe Oakland would have won the superbowl if Gruden stuck around one more year. So I'll give him credit for helping bring two teams to the championship in the same year.

[Green Habit]

Nate's an FO fan, so he might have read this already. I thought that this was a pretty funny reaction to the Chiefs hiring Reid:

http://footballoutsiders.com/extra-poin ... ent-917966

I . . . I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Jamaal Charles keeper league fantasy owners suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

It should be pointed out that Dwayne Bowe is probably leaving in free agency, and the WRs they have behind them are really unproven.

[Dr. Van Nostrand]

Nate's an FO fan, so he might have read this already. I thought that this was a pretty funny reaction to the Chiefs hiring Reid:

http://footballoutsiders.com/extra-poin ... ent-917966

I . . . I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Jamaal Charles keeper league fantasy owners suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

It should be pointed out that Dwayne Bowe is probably leaving in free agency, and the WRs they have behind them are really unproven.

Jamaal Charles has been used badly his whole career so far, i think he is much closer to the kinda RB andy reid will like then the kinda RB Hailey seemed to like. dude averages over 6 yards per carry and they couldnt find a way to use him enough, even if its on dump off passes and things like that, i think Charles will get more touches then he is used to. so as far as Fantasy Football is concerned, i wont shy away from him because of Reid, McCoy has done quite well for Fantasy Football.

[Self]

I . . . I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Jamaal Charles keeper league fantasy owners suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

[epilogue]

Nate's an FO fan, so he might have read this already. I thought that this was a pretty funny reaction to the Chiefs hiring Reid:

http://footballoutsiders.com/extra-poin ... ent-917966

I . . . I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Jamaal Charles keeper league fantasy owners suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

It should be pointed out that Dwayne Bowe is probably leaving in free agency, and the WRs they have behind them are really unproven.

Jamaal Charles has been used badly his whole career so far, i think he is much closer to the kinda RB andy reid will like then the kinda RB Hailey seemed to like. dude averages over 6 yards per carry and they couldnt find a way to use him enough, even if its on dump off passes and things like that, i think Charles will get more touches then he is used to. so as far as Fantasy Football is concerned, i wont shy away from him because of Reid, McCoy has done quite well for Fantasy Football.

The major downside to Charles is his hands. He was fumble happy his first couple of seasons. That seems to have turned around, but when he loses balls, it's usually on passing plays.

Having said that, he's still our best offensive weapon. And I'm excited to see how he's used.

And I think with Pioli gone and Reid in... I'm guessing Bowe stays. I think they'll get the deal done. Especially if Geno Smith is the pick. Bowe's gonna be over the moon to catch balls thrown by Geno in a system designed by Reid.

[Dr. Van Nostrand]

Nate's an FO fan, so he might have read this already. I thought that this was a pretty funny reaction to the Chiefs hiring Reid:

http://footballoutsiders.com/extra-poin ... ent-917966

I . . . I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Jamaal Charles keeper league fantasy owners suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

It should be pointed out that Dwayne Bowe is probably leaving in free agency, and the WRs they have behind them are really unproven.

Jamaal Charles has been used badly his whole career so far, i think he is much closer to the kinda RB andy reid will like then the kinda RB Hailey seemed to like. dude averages over 6 yards per carry and they couldnt find a way to use him enough, even if its on dump off passes and things like that, i think Charles will get more touches then he is used to. so as far as Fantasy Football is concerned, i wont shy away from him because of Reid, McCoy has done quite well for Fantasy Football.

The major downside to Charles is his hands. He was fumble happy his first couple of seasons. That seems to have turned around, but when he loses balls, it's usually on passing plays.

Having said that, he's still our best offensive weapon. And I'm excited to see how he's used.

And I think with Pioli gone and Reid in... I'm guessing Bowe stays. I think they'll get the deal done. Especially if Geno Smith is the pick. Bowe's gonna be over the moon to catch balls thrown by Geno in a system designed by Reid.

So you hoping for geno, i dont know much about him, but seems everyone had him as #1 before Reid got the job

[Orpheus]

Yeah I thought that was funny. I actually think Charles could really flourish for Reid as a receiver with all the different screens and shovels and motion plays Reid likes. They tried some of that stuff with Haley in KC but it never really took off.

I still have no idea why Pittsburgh got rid of Arians, but the Colts have certainly done well with his system.

[Mecca]

I'd be very surprised if Geno Smith finds consistent success in the NFL as a QB

[Dr. Van Nostrand]

Supposedly chip kelly is very close to a deal to become the coach of the browns.....though i heard how "close" he was to being the bucs coach last year, so we will see.

For the record, i was excited about chip kelly lest year because he was a new exciting name, but im still pretty skeptical he will work out in the pros, and im much happier that tampa got Schiano

[epilogue]

Nate's an FO fan, so he might have read this already. I thought that this was a pretty funny reaction to the Chiefs hiring Reid:

http://footballoutsiders.com/extra-poin ... ent-917966

I . . . I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Jamaal Charles keeper league fantasy owners suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

It should be pointed out that Dwayne Bowe is probably leaving in free agency, and the WRs they have behind them are really unproven.

Jamaal Charles has been used badly his whole career so far, i think he is much closer to the kinda RB andy reid will like then the kinda RB Hailey seemed to like. dude averages over 6 yards per carry and they couldnt find a way to use him enough, even if its on dump off passes and things like that, i think Charles will get more touches then he is used to. so as far as Fantasy Football is concerned, i wont shy away from him because of Reid, McCoy has done quite well for Fantasy Football.

The major downside to Charles is his hands. He was fumble happy his first couple of seasons. That seems to have turned around, but when he loses balls, it's usually on passing plays.

Having said that, he's still our best offensive weapon. And I'm excited to see how he's used.

And I think with Pioli gone and Reid in... I'm guessing Bowe stays. I think they'll get the deal done. Especially if Geno Smith is the pick. Bowe's gonna be over the moon to catch balls thrown by Geno in a system designed by Reid.

So you hoping for geno, i dont know much about him, but seems everyone had him as #1 before Reid got the job

Geno certainly isn't a no-brainer. He's not an obvious choice. And he could very well bust. But the Chiefs need to change their philosophy in general. They've only tried to draft and groom their own QB once in franchise history. Geno has HUGE upside. I think he's the most interesting QB prospect in the draft his year. So, yeah, I'm all about the Chiefs picking him up.

Though, I'm not convinced he's a "franchise QB." I like his intangibles and he's got the highest ceiling of any of the QB's in this draft. I say, go for it. And keep doing it every year until we get our guy.

[epilogue]

I'd be very surprised if Geno Smith finds consistent success in the NFL as a QB

If whomever gets him can build a system around him like Shanny has done with RGIII in Washington, I think Geno can have great success. It's not a given. He's not Luck. Or RGIII, for that matter. But he's a great prospect.

[Dr. Van Nostrand]

Nate's an FO fan, so he might have read this already. I thought that this was a pretty funny reaction to the Chiefs hiring Reid:

http://footballoutsiders.com/extra-poin ... ent-917966

I . . . I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Jamaal Charles keeper league fantasy owners suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

It should be pointed out that Dwayne Bowe is probably leaving in free agency, and the WRs they have behind them are really unproven.

Jamaal Charles has been used badly his whole career so far, i think he is much closer to the kinda RB andy reid will like then the kinda RB Hailey seemed to like. dude averages over 6 yards per carry and they couldnt find a way to use him enough, even if its on dump off passes and things like that, i think Charles will get more touches then he is used to. so as far as Fantasy Football is concerned, i wont shy away from him because of Reid, McCoy has done quite well for Fantasy Football.

The major downside to Charles is his hands. He was fumble happy his first couple of seasons. That seems to have turned around, but when he loses balls, it's usually on passing plays.

Having said that, he's still our best offensive weapon. And I'm excited to see how he's used.

And I think with Pioli gone and Reid in... I'm guessing Bowe stays. I think they'll get the deal done. Especially if Geno Smith is the pick. Bowe's gonna be over the moon to catch balls thrown by Geno in a system designed by Reid.

So you hoping for geno, i dont know much about him, but seems everyone had him as #1 before Reid got the job

Geno certainly isn't a no-brainer. He's not an obvious choice. And he could very well bust. But the Chiefs need to change their philosophy in general. They've only tried to draft and groom their own QB once in franchise history. Geno has HUGE upside. I think he's the most interesting QB prospect in the draft his year. So, yeah, I'm all about the Chiefs picking him up.

Im sad to say that i really didnt watch any college ball, saw a couple of irish games but thats it, so i know nothing about him but that he is currently expected to go first. I assume for the little ive heard that he is not a convential pocket passer, but is he a good passer or one that would choose to run first?

Though, I'm not convinced he's a "franchise QB." I like his intangibles and he's got the highest ceiling of any of the QB's in this draft. I say, go for it. And keep doing it every year until we get our guy.

[epilogue]

Nate's an FO fan, so he might have read this already. I thought that this was a pretty funny reaction to the Chiefs hiring Reid:

http://footballoutsiders.com/extra-poin ... ent-917966

I . . . I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Jamaal Charles keeper league fantasy owners suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

It should be pointed out that Dwayne Bowe is probably leaving in free agency, and the WRs they have behind them are really unproven.

Jamaal Charles has been used badly his whole career so far, i think he is much closer to the kinda RB andy reid will like then the kinda RB Hailey seemed to like. dude averages over 6 yards per carry and they couldnt find a way to use him enough, even if its on dump off passes and things like that, i think Charles will get more touches then he is used to. so as far as Fantasy Football is concerned, i wont shy away from him because of Reid, McCoy has done quite well for Fantasy Football.

The major downside to Charles is his hands. He was fumble happy his first couple of seasons. That seems to have turned around, but when he loses balls, it's usually on passing plays.

Having said that, he's still our best offensive weapon. And I'm excited to see how he's used.

And I think with Pioli gone and Reid in... I'm guessing Bowe stays. I think they'll get the deal done. Especially if Geno Smith is the pick. Bowe's gonna be over the moon to catch balls thrown by Geno in a system designed by Reid.

So you hoping for geno, i dont know much about him, but seems everyone had him as #1 before Reid got the job

Geno certainly isn't a no-brainer. He's not an obvious choice. And he could very well bust. But the Chiefs need to change their philosophy in general. They've only tried to draft and groom their own QB once in franchise history. Geno has HUGE upside. I think he's the most interesting QB prospect in the draft his year. So, yeah, I'm all about the Chiefs picking him up.

Im sad to say that i really didnt watch any college ball, saw a couple of irish games but thats it, so i know nothing about him but that he is currently expected to go first. I assume for the little ive heard that he is not a convential pocket passer, but is he a good passer or one that would choose to run first?

Though, I'm not convinced he's a "franchise QB." I like his intangibles and he's got the highest ceiling of any of the QB's in this draft. I say, go for it. And keep doing it every year until we get our guy.

Actually, what's great about Geno is that he is a pocket passer with great legs. He's not a run first guy. He's more like Andrew Luck than RGIII in that regard. Of course, he's nowhere near the QB that either of them are. But, for the sake of comparison, he's more Luck than RGIII. He's a pocket passer with great mobility. All of my favorite GS highlights show him standing strong in the pocket and delivering a bomb on target.

[Dr. Van Nostrand]

Nate's an FO fan, so he might have read this already. I thought that this was a pretty funny reaction to the Chiefs hiring Reid:

http://footballoutsiders.com/extra-poin ... ent-917966

I . . . I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Jamaal Charles keeper league fantasy owners suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

It should be pointed out that Dwayne Bowe is probably leaving in free agency, and the WRs they have behind them are really unproven.

Jamaal Charles has been used badly his whole career so far, i think he is much closer to the kinda RB andy reid will like then the kinda RB Hailey seemed to like. dude averages over 6 yards per carry and they couldnt find a way to use him enough, even if its on dump off passes and things like that, i think Charles will get more touches then he is used to. so as far as Fantasy Football is concerned, i wont shy away from him because of Reid, McCoy has done quite well for Fantasy Football.

The major downside to Charles is his hands. He was fumble happy his first couple of seasons. That seems to have turned around, but when he loses balls, it's usually on passing plays.

Having said that, he's still our best offensive weapon. And I'm excited to see how he's used.

And I think with Pioli gone and Reid in... I'm guessing Bowe stays. I think they'll get the deal done. Especially if Geno Smith is the pick. Bowe's gonna be over the moon to catch balls thrown by Geno in a system designed by Reid.

So you hoping for geno, i dont know much about him, but seems everyone had him as #1 before Reid got the job

Geno certainly isn't a no-brainer. He's not an obvious choice. And he could very well bust. But the Chiefs need to change their philosophy in general. They've only tried to draft and groom their own QB once in franchise history. Geno has HUGE upside. I think he's the most interesting QB prospect in the draft his year. So, yeah, I'm all about the Chiefs picking him up.

Im sad to say that i really didnt watch any college ball, saw a couple of irish games but thats it, so i know nothing about him but that he is currently expected to go first. I assume for the little ive heard that he is not a convential pocket passer, but is he a good passer or one that would choose to run first?

Though, I'm not convinced he's a "franchise QB." I like his intangibles and he's got the highest ceiling of any of the QB's in this draft. I say, go for it. And keep doing it every year until we get our guy.

Actually, what's great about Geno is that he is a pocket passer with great legs. He's not a run first guy. He's more like Andrew Luck than RGIII in that regard. Of course, he's nowhere near the QB that either of them are. But, for the sake of comparison, he's more Luck than RGIII. He's a pocket passer with great mobility. All of my favorite GS highlights show him standing strong in the pocket and delivering a bomb on target.

Damn, dont know what happened there but im glad you found my post even though i managed to put it in the middle of your quote
Sounds pretty good though, im really torn as a bucs fan in this draft, i want to think freeman will be the QB he was in the middle of the season and not the QB he was in the beginning and end, but i also like the idea of drafting a QB this year, maybe a 2nd, 3rd or 4th rounder, someone to push freeman, and also for the excitment of having a new quarterback incase freeman does fail

[epilogue]

Nate's an FO fan, so he might have read this already. I thought that this was a pretty funny reaction to the Chiefs hiring Reid:

http://footballoutsiders.com/extra-poin ... ent-917966

I . . . I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Jamaal Charles keeper league fantasy owners suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

It should be pointed out that Dwayne Bowe is probably leaving in free agency, and the WRs they have behind them are really unproven.

Jamaal Charles has been used badly his whole career so far, i think he is much closer to the kinda RB andy reid will like then the kinda RB Hailey seemed to like. dude averages over 6 yards per carry and they couldnt find a way to use him enough, even if its on dump off passes and things like that, i think Charles will get more touches then he is used to. so as far as Fantasy Football is concerned, i wont shy away from him because of Reid, McCoy has done quite well for Fantasy Football.

The major downside to Charles is his hands. He was fumble happy his first couple of seasons. That seems to have turned around, but when he loses balls, it's usually on passing plays.

Having said that, he's still our best offensive weapon. And I'm excited to see how he's used.

And I think with Pioli gone and Reid in... I'm guessing Bowe stays. I think they'll get the deal done. Especially if Geno Smith is the pick. Bowe's gonna be over the moon to catch balls thrown by Geno in a system designed by Reid.

So you hoping for geno, i dont know much about him, but seems everyone had him as #1 before Reid got the job

Geno certainly isn't a no-brainer. He's not an obvious choice. And he could very well bust. But the Chiefs need to change their philosophy in general. They've only tried to draft and groom their own QB once in franchise history. Geno has HUGE upside. I think he's the most interesting QB prospect in the draft his year. So, yeah, I'm all about the Chiefs picking him up.

Im sad to say that i really didnt watch any college ball, saw a couple of irish games but thats it, so i know nothing about him but that he is currently expected to go first. I assume for the little ive heard that he is not a convential pocket passer, but is he a good passer or one that would choose to run first?

Though, I'm not convinced he's a "franchise QB." I like his intangibles and he's got the highest ceiling of any of the QB's in this draft. I say, go for it. And keep doing it every year until we get our guy.

Actually, what's great about Geno is that he is a pocket passer with great legs. He's not a run first guy. He's more like Andrew Luck than RGIII in that regard. Of course, he's nowhere near the QB that either of them are. But, for the sake of comparison, he's more Luck than RGIII. He's a pocket passer with great mobility. All of my favorite GS highlights show him standing strong in the pocket and delivering a bomb on target.

Damn, dont know what happened there but im glad you found my post even though i managed to put it in the middle of your quote
Sounds pretty good though, im really torn as a bucs fan in this draft, i want to think freeman will be the QB he was in the middle of the season and not the QB he was in the beginning and end, but i also like the idea of drafting a QB this year, maybe a 2nd, 3rd or 4th rounder, someone to push freeman, and also for the excitment of having a new quarterback incase freeman does fail

I'm biased. As a KSU fan, I LOVE Freeman.

But, yeah, I'm a big fan of taking a QB every year. You absolutely can not win in this league anymore without a QB. I like Freeman. But some competition wouldn't be a terrible thing for him.

[Dr. Van Nostrand]

Trust me, i wanna love josh, and he has done a lot of great things, i just wanna see another step forward next year. I mean, he threw for 4k yards and 27 tds, but so many of the 17 ints were just terrible decisions and bad bad acuracy, he only had 54% completions. Thw great thing is he is still real young and lots of time to improve.