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Electromatic wrote:John Smoltz was a pretty good player that Detroit traded. I believe for Doyle Alexander.


Smoltz had one or two good years.

http://www.blessyouboys.com/2011/7/19/2 ... moltzs-law
you know skitch, now that i know what i know about Doyle Alexander, David Price might fit that billing.
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Chris_H_2 wrote:"Prospects" are valued as much for the amount of years of team control (particularly when you can sign them to long-term deals at such young ages if they pan out at below- or at-market rates) as they are for talent. It's not surprising why gm's covet them so much now. If you have huge payrolls with owners who are on death's door and who want to win NOW, they're not valued as much; but that's certainly the exception, not the rule.

Im not talking about the GM's coveting. Im talking about the fans prospect fetish.
I think you're overestimating the average fan's fetish with prospects, particularly because most average fans (who make up about 90% of a team's fan base) couldn't name more than 1 player in a team's minor-league system.
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:"Prospects" are valued as much for the amount of years of team control (particularly when you can sign them to long-term deals at such young ages if they pan out at below- or at-market rates) as they are for talent. It's not surprising why gm's covet them so much now. If you have huge payrolls with owners who are on death's door and who want to win NOW, they're not valued as much; but that's certainly the exception, not the rule.

Im not talking about the GM's coveting. Im talking about the fans prospect fetish.
I think you're overestimating the average fan's fetish with prospects, particularly because most average fans (who make up about 90% of a team's fan base) couldn't name more than 1 player in a team's minor-league system.

Yes, but the 10% that do are also the most vocal.
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@SkitchP wrote:
Electromatic wrote:John Smoltz was a pretty good player that Detroit traded. I believe for Doyle Alexander.


Smoltz had one or two good years.

http://www.blessyouboys.com/2011/7/19/2 ... moltzs-law

Yeah, I mean ultimately ya got to break a few eggs to make an omelet. It was probably the right move for both clubs at the time.

I can't vouch for his time with the Red Sox Ellis, but 1996 was a pretty good year.
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Pete Van Wieren died last night. The Professor.

He and Skip Caray were the voices of my childhood sad to hear of his death.
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Electromatic wrote:Pete Van Wieren died last night. The Professor.

He and Skip Caray were the voices of my childhood sad to hear of his death.

Sad day. He was fabulous.
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the voices of my childhood sad to hear of his death were orson welles and billy west
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Hey y'all. Being a muts fan, I am used to being the big suck. But WTF happened with the phillies. 5 years ago they were in back to back world series, loaded with pitchers and a loaded farm systems. What happened? Did Amaro Jr. just destroy the team? Did everyone get real old at the same time?
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They've made moves the last few years with absolutely no eye towards anything past the year they were currently in. It's almost like they thought the world was going to end in 2012.
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lowlight79 wrote:Hey y'all. Being a muts fan, I am used to being the big suck. But WTF happened with the phillies. 5 years ago they were in back to back world series, loaded with pitchers and a loaded farm systems. What happened? Did Amaro Jr. just destroy the team? Did everyone get real old at the same time?

Old Age and bad contracts.

They let a guy named Rube be their GM
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So the D-Backs are kind of a joke of an organization, aren't they?
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RIP jose bautista
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Alex wrote:RIP jose bautista

Hahaha.

Nah...it's totally normal to double your career home run total in one season when you are 29. :roll:
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It would be so awesome if it was Jeter.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:It would be so awesome if it was Jeter.
No way MLB would let that get out.
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numbers wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:It would be so awesome if it was Jeter.
No way MLB would let that get out.
It would be amazing.
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