SPEENO--bird from hell or lovely peacock. Let's discuss.

knee tunes · Post by **knee tunes** » Sat March 23, 2013 7:17 pm

If you would, please. Start watching by no sooner than 2:10.

What exactly, musically, is going on between 2:29 - 2:42 that makes that part of the song sound so good...?
I've been trying to put my finger on it but I don't know what it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It0F-jQkiKA

matt reeder · Post by **matt reeder** » Sat March 23, 2013 7:27 pm

That's the moment where that song really takes off. Oh, how I long to hear it live one day...

bada · Post by **bada** » Sat March 23, 2013 7:28 pm

When you have a quite song where all the parts are defined and then you segue into a new more uptempo uplifting riff in the outro I don't know the technical term is if there is one but those type of transitions are pretty effective at eliciting an emotional response. Other examples would be the outro to the Alice In Chains song 'Don't Follow' and the GnR song 'Patience'.

Post by **stip** » Sat March 23, 2013 7:39 pm

matt reeder wrote:That's the moment where that song really takes off. Oh, how I long to hear it live one day...

it is pretty great.

Post by **stip** » Sat March 23, 2013 7:39 pm

bada wrote:When you have a quite song where all the parts are defined and then you segue into a new more uptempo uplifting riff in the outro I don't know the technical term is if there is one but those type of transitions are pretty effective at eliciting an emotional response. Other examples would be the outro to the Alice In Chains song 'Don't Follow' and the GnR song 'Patience'.

that part of don't follow is sooo good. but then again everything about don't follow is amazing. that is AIC's best song.

warehouse · Post by **warehouse** » Sat March 23, 2013 11:58 pm

the first part is just that one riff and the descending (i think?) part when he sings "its hard to imagine"

2:29 it changes to a chord progression A-some weird version of A-G. the riff might even be in A, but the change from a riff to a power chord helps effect the mood of the song.

plus, its an incredible song.

verb_to_trust · Post by **verb_to_trust** » Sun March 24, 2013 12:05 am

bada wrote:When you have a quite song where all the parts are defined and then you segue into a new more uptempo uplifting riff in the outro I don't know the technical term is if there is one but those type of transitions are pretty effective at eliciting an emotional response. Other examples would be the outro to the Alice In Chains song 'Don't Follow' and the GnR song 'Patience'.

This is probably subconsciously reinforced by Eddie singing "things were different then..."

oasisfan35 · Post by **oasisfan35** » Sun March 24, 2013 12:51 am

stip wrote:
bada wrote:When you have a quite song where all the parts are defined and then you segue into a new more uptempo uplifting riff in the outro I don't know the technical term is if there is one but those type of transitions are pretty effective at eliciting an emotional response. Other examples would be the outro to the Alice In Chains song 'Don't Follow' and the GnR song 'Patience'.
that part of don't follow is sooo good. but then again everything about don't follow is amazing. that is AIC's best song.

That is a bold statement and I feel that I may agree.

Birds in Hell · Post by **Birds in Hell** » Sun March 24, 2013 1:00 am

I really like Alice in Chains, but I think Don't Follow is awful.

Rotten Apple and Nutshell are great, but the rest of Jar of Flies is some of my least favourite material in their catalogue (not counting the post-Layne stuff, which I have no interest in.

Think I'll throw Sludge Factory on.

VinylGuy · Post by **VinylGuy** » Sun March 24, 2013 1:04 am

Birds in Hell wrote:I really like Alice in Chains, but I think Don't Follow is awful.

Rotten Apple and Nutshell are great, but the rest of Jar of Flies is some of my least favourite material in their catalogue (not counting the post-Layne stuff, which I have no interest in.)

Jar of flies is perfect. Thats a perfect EP. The most perfect EP in the history of EPs.

Post by **stip** » Sun March 24, 2013 1:10 am

VinylGuy wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:I really like Alice in Chains, but I think Don't Follow is awful.

Rotten Apple and Nutshell are great, but the rest of Jar of Flies is some of my least favourite material in their catalogue (not counting the post-Layne stuff, which I have no interest in.)
Jar of flies is perfect. Thats a perfect EP. The most perfect EP in the history of EPs.

Birds in Hell · Post by **Birds in Hell** » Sun March 24, 2013 1:11 am

VinylGuy wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:I really like Alice in Chains, but I think Don't Follow is awful.

Rotten Apple and Nutshell are great, but the rest of Jar of Flies is some of my least favourite material in their catalogue (not counting the post-Layne stuff, which I have no interest in.)
Jar of flies is perfect. Thats a perfect EP. The most perfect EP in the history of EPs.

Needs more gloom and heaviness.

knee tunes · Post by **knee tunes** » Sun March 24, 2013 4:03 am

warehouse wrote:the first part is just that one riff and the descending (i think?) part when he sings "its hard to imagine"

2:29 it changes to a chord progression A-some weird version of A-G. the riff might even be in A, but the change from a riff to a power chord helps effect the mood of the song.

plus, its an incredible song.

I was trying to figure out just exactly what it was. I'm not sure it's only a simple A to G though.

I was thinking it was either

A) magic,

B) the known anticipation of the band "hitting it" coming right up, or

B) the surprise of a wonderfully-placed sans solo

VinylGuy · Post by **VinylGuy** » Sun March 24, 2013 4:26 am

Birds in Hell wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:I really like Alice in Chains, but I think Don't Follow is awful.

Rotten Apple and Nutshell are great, but the rest of Jar of Flies is some of my least favourite material in their catalogue (not counting the post-Layne stuff, which I have no interest in.)
Jar of flies is perfect. Thats a perfect EP. The most perfect EP in the history of EPs.

Needs more gloom and heaviness.

Its really heavy and gloomy. Just not in the music, but in the lyrics and overall feeling.

Post by **stip** » Sun March 24, 2013 12:28 pm

unless someone has physically slit their wrists or OD'd during the recording Speeno thinks it sounds too much like U2

McParadigm · Post by **McParadigm** » Sun March 24, 2013 2:10 pm

Hard to Imagine has a cool feel, and some powerful elements that seem to touch on a lot of the band's other sounds without repeating them, but is decidedly undercooked. That's actually a really good combination for outtakes, in general.

@SkitchP · Post by **@SkitchP** » Sun March 24, 2013 2:13 pm

stip wrote:Speeno

Post by **Jorge** » Sun March 24, 2013 2:18 pm

@SkitchP wrote:
stip wrote:Speeno

A lot of people seem to call him that.

Post by **epilogue** » Sun March 24, 2013 2:27 pm

theplatypus wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
stip wrote:Speeno
A lot of people seem to call him that.

AND ITS ALL YOUR FAULT

Thank you, by the way.

Post by **stip** » Sun March 24, 2013 2:47 pm

I will never call anyone by their stupid name change if I know who the original poster was.

Red Mosquito

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