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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /14953965/

Statutory rape victim forced to pay child support

PHOENIX — Nick Olivas became a father at 14, a fact he wouldn't learn for eight years.

While in high school, Olivas had sex with a 20-year-old woman. As he sees it now, she took advantage of a lonely kid going through a rough patch at home.

State law says a child younger than 15 cannot consent with an adult under any circumstance, making Olivas a rape victim. But Olivas didn't press charges and says he didn't realize at the time that it was even something to consider.

The two went their separate ways. Olivas, now 24 and living in Phoenix, graduated from high school, went to college and became a medical assistant.

Then two years ago, the state served him with papers demanding child support. That's how he found out he had a then-6-year-old daughter.

"It was a shock," he said. "I was living my life and enjoying being young. To find out you have a 6-year-old? It's unexplainable. It freaked me out."

He said he panicked, ignored the legal documents and never got the required paternity test. The state eventually tracked him down.

Olivas said he now owes about $15,000 in back child support and medical bills going back to the child's birth, plus 10 percent interest. The state seized money from his bank account and is now garnisheeing his wages at $380 a month.

In May alone, payments were not made in 49 percent of those cases, according to the agency.

Olivas' fear has turned to frustration.

He wants to be in his daughter's life and is willing to pay child support going forward. But he doesn't think it's right for the state to charge him for fees incurred when he was still a child himself or for the years he didn't know the girl existed.

"Anything I do as an adult, I should be responsible for," he said. "But as a teenager? I don't think so."

Situations such as Olivas' are rare, according to fathers-rights advocates. But cases in several states have garnered attention. And while there has been some public outcry over charging a crime victim with child support, the courts have consistently said states have every right to do so.

The most well-known case was of a Kansas boy who, at age 13, impregnated his 17-year-old baby-sitter. Under Kansas law, a child under the age of 15 is legally unable to consent to sex. The Kansas Supreme Court in 1993 ruled that he was liable for child support.

California issued a similar state court ruling a few years later in the case of a 15-year-old boy who had sex with a 34-year-old neighbor. In that case, the woman had been convicted of statutory rape.

In both cases, it was the state social-services agency that pursued the case after the mother sought public assistance.

"The Kansas court determined that the rape was irrelevant and that the child support was not owed to the rapist but rather to the child," said Mel Feit, director of the New York-based advocacy group the National Center for Men.

In Arizona, the Department of Economic Security oversees child--support enforcement. Its written policy is not to exempt situations like Olivas' from child-support responsibilities, unless the parent seeking child support has been found guilty of sexual assault with a minor or sexual assault.

"We don't see those cases very often, and we're really glad for that," said attorney Janet Sell, chief counsel with the Attorney General's Office's Child and Family Protection Division.

But DES officials said the intent of the rule is to ensure that the child, who had no control over the situation, is cared for.

Feit said if the roles were reversed and the woman was the victim, the scenario would be unthinkable.

"The idea that a woman would have to send money to a man who raped her is absolutely off-the-charts ridiculous," he said. "It wouldn't be tolerated, and it shouldn't be tolerated."

Feit said the basic legal premise of a rape is that the victim can't be held responsible. And with statutory rape, even if the victim participates, he or she can't be held responsible.

"We're not going to hold him responsible for the sex act, so to then turn around and say we're going to hold him responsible for the child that resulted from that act is off-the-charts ridiculous," he said. "It makes no sense."

Arizona also has no exemption for children born to children, although the state cannot get a court order for child support against the non-custodial parent until that parent becomes an adult.

It also doesn't matter to the state whether the non-custodial parent knows about the child or not. Child support is a separate legal issue from custody.

The state requires parents seeking public assistance under the state's welfare programs to first pursue child support. The child-support payments then are used to help reimburse the state for assistance payments.

"They have to comply with us," said Scott Lekan, DES child support operations administrator. "We're trying to keep them off the cash assistance, and we're trying to get back some of the cash assistance money. It benefits everybody at the end of the day."

The state has more routes than the courts to acquire money from a parent. It can garnishee wages up to 50 percent of disposable income. It can take a tax refund. It can put a lien on a home or a vehicle. It can suspend driver's licenses or revoke passports. And it can seize money out of bank accounts.

"Our biggest source of income is from income-withholding orders to employers," Lekan said.

Under Arizona's child-support formula, non-custodial parents may keep their first $903 to cover their own living expenses. A child-support payment amount is then set based on the remaining money.

Olivas is trying to fight some of the child-support costs, but says he can't afford a lawyer.

He also is trying to see his daughter.

"I lost my mom at a young age. I know what it's like to only have one parent," he said. "I can't leave her out there. She deserves a dad."
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Poor dude.
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All around unfortunate situation
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'Ridiculous' seems like too soft a word.
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It's misters like you, giving the rest of us a bad name

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dimejinky99 wrote:It's misters like you, giving the rest of us a bad name

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Ryanair is fucking abysmal..BUT! they changed the whole game in airloines and made cheap fares a reality..

now they charge you for lookin out the window
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probably should be a thread for this..im not quallified
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dimejinky99 wrote:Ryanair is fucking abysmal..BUT! they changed the whole game in airloines and made cheap fares a reality..

now they charge you for lookin out the window
Looks like they've started throwing in a complimentary blowjob, though.
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you wouldnt...trust me..not at your drunkest..off either gender..
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This is actually a pretty big deal..if youre into that sorta thing.
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014 ... ect-circle

Dry spell at Stonehenge reveals secret that has eluded archaeologists
Brown patches of grass left by short hosepipe lead to 'lightbulb moment' that may confirm monument was once a perfect circle

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An orthophoto of Stonehenge taken from the air shows the brown patches of grass where stones may once have completed the circle. Photograph: English Heritage/Damian Grady
One of the many mysteries of Stonehenge may have been solved, not because of a scientific breakthrough or painstaking research, but after a maintenance team's hosepipe turned out to be a little short.

Archaeologists have long argued over whether the ancient monument was once a perfect circle or if it was always, as it is now, an incomplete ring.

When a hosepipe used to keep the grass green in hot spells failed to reach a broken part of the circle, unsightly brown patches began to appear. Custodian Tim Daw was fretting over the blemishes when he realised they matched the spots where stones would probably have stood if the monument had been a complete circle.

Daw said it was a "lightbulb moment". "I was standing on the public path looking at the grass near the stones and thinking we needed to find a longer hosepipe to get the parched patches to green up," he said.

"I remembered that the marks were where archaeologists had looked without success for signs that there had been stone holes. I called my colleague over and he saw them and realised their possible significance as well. Not being archaeologists, we called in the professionals.

"I am still amazed, and very pleased, that simply looking at something that tens of thousands of people had unwittingly seen, can reveal secrets that sophisticated machinery can't."

The professionals duly took charge. Aerial photographs were hurriedly commissioned before the rain could come and remove the brown patches, and the scorch marks on the western side of the Wiltshire site were mapped, and some of the brown patches indeed tallied with where stones would have stood if the circle were complete.

Other brown patches corresponded to recorded archaeological excavations, included trenches dug by the engineer William Gowland in 1901. That some of the patches matched the site of the trenches supports the theory that they indicate disturbed ground.

The patches were spotted last summer, but the conclusions have just been detailed in a report by Daw and other English Heritage staff published in the latest edition of the journal Antiquity. The report points out that, despite being one of the most intensively explored prehistoric monuments, Stonehenge continues to hold surprises. It also highlights the value of continually surveying the site from the ground and air.

Susan Greaney, senior properties historian for English Heritage, said the accidental discovery was "really significant" and added: "It shows us just how much we still have to learn about Stonehenge. It's great that people who know the site really well and look at it every day were able to spot these parch marks and recognise them for what they were."

Greaney said what might have happened to the missing stones remained a puzzle. They could have been removed and used as stone for local houses or even roads. But the lack of a decent-sized hosepipe means the idea that the circle was deliberately left incomplete can probably be discounted.

There are no plans to excavate beneath the brown marks, but English Heritage, which manages Stonehenge, may deliberately fail to water parts of the site next time there is a hot spell in case other mysteries can be solved.
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How is this Kate Upton thing not in the news thread yet and where are links to the legit pics?
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Bammer wrote:How is this Kate Upton thing not in the news thread yet and where are links to the legit pics?
Because the situation is a gross violation of her privacy (no different than breaking into her house and stealing them) and frankly Upton was the one who suffered the most embarrassing of the leaks with the least amount of press support (unlike Lawrence). I mean she got totally shafted. The short end of the stick for sure.
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Bammer wrote:How is this Kate Upton thing not in the news thread yet and where are links to the legit pics?
Because the situation is a gross violation of her privacy (no different than breaking into her house and stealing them) and frankly Upton was the one who suffered the most embarrassing of the leaks with the least amount of press support (unlike Lawrence). I mean she got totally shafted. The short end of the stick for sure.
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Bammer wrote:How is this Kate Upton thing not in the news thread yet and where are links to the legit pics?
Because the situation is a gross violation of her privacy (no different than breaking into her house and stealing them) and frankly Upton was the one who suffered the most embarrassing of the leaks with the least amount of press support (unlike Lawrence). I mean she got totally shafted. The short end of the stick for sure.
Yeah pretty sticky situation for her.
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broken iris wrote:
Bammer wrote:How is this Kate Upton thing not in the news thread yet and where are links to the legit pics?
Because the situation is a gross violation of her privacy (no different than breaking into her house and stealing them) and frankly Upton was the one who suffered the most embarrassing of the leaks with the least amount of press support (unlike Lawrence). I mean she got totally shafted. The short end of the stick for sure.

Additionally, especially in her case, eventual topless shots could have been very lucrative for her financially had she chosen to ever go down that path.
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broken iris wrote:
Bammer wrote:How is this Kate Upton thing not in the news thread yet and where are links to the legit pics?
Because the situation is a gross violation of her privacy (no different than breaking into her house and stealing them) and frankly Upton was the one who suffered the most embarrassing of the leaks with the least amount of press support (unlike Lawrence). I mean she got totally shafted. The short end of the stick for sure.

Additionally, especially in her case, eventual topless shots could have been very lucrative for her financially had she chosen to ever go down that path.

The amount of victim blaming is just insane... quite disheartening.
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