U2 | Songs of Innocence

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The Guardian is so rock and roll
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McParadigm wrote:The Guardian is so rock and roll
Spoken in a U2 thread on a PJ message board.
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Heathen wrote:
broken iris wrote:
U2 Gives Away New Album NOW, Skip Charts, And Who Cares? No Money in CD Sales

by Roger Friedman - September 9, 2014 4:44 pm


U2 has released its new album to iTunes subscribers today like right now, to all 500 million of them. Songs of Innocence is the title. Sign up for iTunes– it’s free– and you can get the album free if you order it by October 13th. The album will not qualify for chart positions or RIAA certifications. And U2 is saying basically Who cares?

Album sales have vanished. The most U2 would sell in its first week, if they were very very lucky, would between 300,000 and 500,000 copies. And that’s being extremely optimistic. It’s not worth the price of printing them up. Just give it away, and make the money through publishing, which the group owns, and concert tours. LiveNation will soon announce a world wide tour that should net the group hundreds of millions of dollars.

It’s brilliant, and no different in concept than giving CDs to ticket buyers, which has been tried with Madonna and Prince. LiveNation has U2 under a 360 contract, they can simply build in the price of the album. Universal Music can collect on vinyl, a small amount of physical CDs, and streaming. My guess though is that “Songs of Innocence” will limited to streaming on iTunes Radio and not available on Spotify and other services.

Check mate.

Hats off to Guy Oseary who continues the tradition of taking U2 into brave new waters, started by Paul McGuinness.

Interesting take.
At the risk of sounding negative, hasn't the whole 'album sales don't matter, money is in touring and licensing' thing been the rule in the music industry for many years now? There's nothing particularly new here except for the scale (and the whole "we will give it to you even if you don't want it" approach). THIS IS NOT A DIG AT U2.
Yep, Radiohead did this years ago.
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McParadigm wrote:
Heathen wrote:I can't believe people think this is a great move. No wait actually I can believe it.
The delivery is in error, but the intention is not. Give me a huge band that tries to give their music away and fucks it up before a band that bitches about people downloading, anyday. Or, for that matter, one that becomes more interested in pushing fanclub memberships and merch catalog mystery boxes than in writing songs and trying out ideas.
For sure. Say what you will about any delivery fuckups but when a major band just gives away their album, it's cool.
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McParadigm wrote:
As if anyone's paid for an album since the late 90s
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stip wrote:Maybe smaller artists have already left this model behind and depend on bandcamp or sites like that.
Bandcamp is actually where I buy most of my music, it's a really fantastic set-up.
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so nobody is going to discuss about the music?
BONE FUCKIN´ TOMAHAWK.
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Worst article I've read on this yet:

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/sasha- ... table-fire
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Just found a working link on YouTube - so giving this a listen now. So far it's grabbing more than the past few albums - which admittedly I didn't give much of a chance
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OK - that wasn't bad. Nothing I disliked on there and a few songs I really liked!
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Rangi Guy wrote:OK - that wasn't bad. Nothing I disliked on there and a few songs I really liked!
Pretty much. The first half feels like U2 in second gear then Side Two is really quite an improvement. RBW to the end is very strong.
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I was so busy shitting on Coldplay for trying to be U2 that I never saw it coming that it was U2 who was turning into Coldplay.

I'm done with new U2. Wake me up when they announce tour dates.
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LetMeSleep wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:OK - that wasn't bad. Nothing I disliked on there and a few songs I really liked!
Pretty much. The first half feels like U2 in second gear then Side Two is really quite an improvement. RBW to the end is very strong.
That's pretty bang on. The first half pretty much served as non-offencive background music while I worked - and then in the 2nd half I heard stuff that I thought was pretty solid
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The last 3 songs are still my favorites, in reverse order.
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Volcano and Raised by Wolves are both decent.

Everything else I don't care much for.
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I really like the approach here to blending rhythm and vocal melody. Nothing others haven't done as well, but a really pleasant offering.

I also like Edge's place/lack of dominance. Not really a big guitar album.
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I could do with Bono being mixed a little lower.
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LetMeSleep wrote:I could do with Bono being mixed a little lower.
Yeah, I adjusted the EQ on my stereo to more Bono tolerable levels.
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This Bobo fellow really seems to "get" the Ramones, what hey.
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