Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

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So what did you think (DcT edition)?

Best of all the films
8
9%
Better than A New Hope, Empire, the prequels, But not Jedi
2
2%
Better than A New Hope, Jedi, the prequels, but not Empire
6
7%
Better than Empire, Jedi, the Prequels, but not A New Hope
2
2%
Better than A New Hope and the prequels, but not Empire or Jedi
2
2%
Better than Empire and the prequels, but not A New Hope or Jedi
1
1%
Better than Jedi and the prequels, but not a New Hope or Empire
23
26%
As good as Empire, Jedi, and A New Hope, and better than the prequels
15
17%
Better than the prequels, but not the originals
15
17%
As good as some of the prequels
7
8%
As good as all of the prequels
2
2%
Worse than the prequels
5
6%
 
Total votes: 88

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B wrote:This is why I trust JJ Abrams. Purists may not like his Star Treks, but no one bitches about the dialog. It will never seem as fake and shoehorned as the prequels. It can't sink the franchise any further. Episode 7 can ONLY improve this mess.
You're PROBABLY right. But I DO hate his Trek movies more than any of the prequels.
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B wrote:This is why I trust JJ Abrams. Purists may not like his Star Treks, but no one bitches about the dialog.
No. They bitch about the use of tragically lazy plotting.

"Let's put this bitch at top speed. Twenty minutes later, we'll dump you on a planet which is apparently right next door to and closer than the moon from the planet we just left. So expect it to take us 243 years to reach earth. Also, you'll be within a quarter mile of hideaway-Spock, so that's pretty sweet. Oh, and like a mile at most away from Scotty. Who will have invented the most impactful and convenient travel system ever. Which we will never use or refer to again. This is in no way completely retarded."

And then the magic Tribble blood, which we will probably never use or refer to again. And the way plot is rushed by in hurried summary exposition, like a video game cut scene hurrying to get to the next level of mission play. And...

Look, the one thing I can credit Abrams with is that he's a good actor's director. He gets performances great enough that the stories he tells aren't worthy of them. That's already a step up from the prequels.
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McParadigm wrote:
B wrote:This is why I trust JJ Abrams. Purists may not like his Star Treks, but no one bitches about the dialog.
No. They bitch about the use of tragically lazy plotting.
No. YOU bitch about the use of tragically lazy plotting.

And, McPhriend, love ya, but we fucking get it already. I promise. We do. But just because one beaten horse deserves another. JJ. Didn't. Write. Those. Scripts.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
B wrote:This is why I trust JJ Abrams. Purists may not like his Star Treks, but no one bitches about the dialog. It will never seem as fake and shoehorned as the prequels. It can't sink the franchise any further. Episode 7 can ONLY improve this mess.
You're PROBABLY right. But I DO hate his Trek movies more than any of the prequels.
I think you typed it wrong.
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durdencommatyler wrote:JJ. Didn't. Write. Those. Scripts.
Nor did he push hard for a rewrite, or change his writing team, or do anything whatsoever to soften the stupidity of those moments. I'd say it's safe to assume he thought it was all okay.

All his work has that kind of derp to it. Sort of like in Super 8, when the soldiers can't make the guns or tanks stop shooting up the town, but apparently they keep reloading them because it never stops?
but we fucking get it already. I promise. We do.
I did a pretty good job of staying away last week. It's only when I get bored that I look for things to do on the Red Mosquito, and there's not a lot going on here right now.
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McParadigm wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:JJ. Didn't. Write. Those. Scripts.
Nor did he push hard for a rewrite, or change his writing team, or do anything whatsoever to soften the stupidity of those moments. I'd say it's safe to assume he thought it was all okay.

All his work has that kind of derp to it. Sort of like in Super 8, when the soldiers can't make the guns or tanks stop shooting up the town, but apparently they keep reloading them because it never stops?
but we fucking get it already. I promise. We do.
I did a pretty good job of staying away last week. It's only when I get bored that I look for things to do on the Red Mosquito, and there's not a lot going on here right now.
I'm glad you're back. I always miss you when you're gone. And I mean that will all sincerity and zero irony. :heartbeat:
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durdencommatyler wrote:I'm glad you're back. I always miss you when you're gone. And I mean that will all sincerity and zero irony. :heartbeat:
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DcT, you should thro won A new Hope. Your love will return faster than the next Mcp anti abrams comment.
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McParadigm wrote:
B wrote:This is why I trust JJ Abrams. Purists may not like his Star Treks, but no one bitches about the dialog.
No. They bitch about the use of tragically lazy plotting.

"Let's put this bitch at top speed. Twenty minutes later, we'll dump you on a planet which is apparently right next door to and closer than the moon from the planet we just left. So expect it to take us 243 years to reach earth. Also, you'll be within a quarter mile of hideaway-Spock, so that's pretty sweet. Oh, and like a mile at most away from Scotty. Who will have invented the most impactful and convenient travel system ever. Which we will never use or refer to again. This is in no way completely retarded."

And then the magic Tribble blood, which we will probably never use or refer to again. And the way plot is rushed by in hurried summary exposition, like a video game cut scene hurrying to get to the next level of mission play. And...

Look, the one thing I can credit Abrams with is that he's a good actor's director. He gets performances great enough that the stories he tells aren't worthy of them. That's already a step up from the prequels.
I don't think I watched the Star Trek reboot closely enough.
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Strat wrote:DcT, you should thro won A new Hope. Your love will return faster than the next Mcp anti abrams comment.
That's a great idea! I'm going to do just that. But not tonight. Tonight I have to build some furniture.
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B wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
B wrote:This is why I trust JJ Abrams. Purists may not like his Star Treks, but no one bitches about the dialog.
No. They bitch about the use of tragically lazy plotting.

"Let's put this bitch at top speed. Twenty minutes later, we'll dump you on a planet which is apparently right next door to and closer than the moon from the planet we just left. So expect it to take us 243 years to reach earth. Also, you'll be within a quarter mile of hideaway-Spock, so that's pretty sweet. Oh, and like a mile at most away from Scotty. Who will have invented the most impactful and convenient travel system ever. Which we will never use or refer to again. This is in no way completely retarded."

And then the magic Tribble blood, which we will probably never use or refer to again. And the way plot is rushed by in hurried summary exposition, like a video game cut scene hurrying to get to the next level of mission play. And...

Look, the one thing I can credit Abrams with is that he's a good actor's director. He gets performances great enough that the stories he tells aren't worthy of them. That's already a step up from the prequels.
I don't think I watched the Star Trek reboot closely enough.
I think you did. You're fine.
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McParadigm wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I'm glad you're back. I always miss you when you're gone. And I mean that will all sincerity and zero irony. :heartbeat:
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
B wrote:This is why I trust JJ Abrams. Purists may not like his Star Treks, but no one bitches about the dialog. It will never seem as fake and shoehorned as the prequels. It can't sink the franchise any further. Episode 7 can ONLY improve this mess.
You're PROBABLY right. But I DO hate his Trek movies more than any of the prequels.
Search your feelings. You know that's not true.
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B wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
B wrote:This is why I trust JJ Abrams. Purists may not like his Star Treks, but no one bitches about the dialog. It will never seem as fake and shoehorned as the prequels. It can't sink the franchise any further. Episode 7 can ONLY improve this mess.
You're PROBABLY right. But I DO hate his Trek movies more than any of the prequels.
Search your feelings. You know that's not true.
Oh I know it's true. I despise those movies. II and III are bad, but not on the same level. And I like Episode I.

But, as you referenced in your original post, I'm something of a Trek "purist," if that's how you want to phrase it. Or...phase it.
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B wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
B wrote:This is why I trust JJ Abrams. Purists may not like his Star Treks, but no one bitches about the dialog. It will never seem as fake and shoehorned as the prequels. It can't sink the franchise any further. Episode 7 can ONLY improve this mess.
You're PROBABLY right. But I DO hate his Trek movies more than any of the prequels.
Search your feelings. You know that's not true.
I think he believes it. But that doesn't mean it's true.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:I like Episode I.
I am going to go ahead and ban you until January 2016.
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B wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I like Episode I.
I am going to go ahead and ban you until January 2016.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
B wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I like Episode I.
I am going to go ahead and ban you until January 2016.
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Jar-Jar is probably one of my favorite SW characters
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