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C'mon fellas! We are so complacent these days.

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It's fun to tease Brady for all the GIFs that get made of him saying fuck over and over, but I like that he's standing up for it instead of crafting some phony apology.

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Green Habit wrote:It's fun to tease Brady for all the GIFs that get made of him saying fuck over and over, but I like that he's standing up for it instead of crafting some phony apology.

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Yeah, listened to that live on the way to work.

Great game last night. Man, Revis needs to stay. Somehow. Someway. That defense is just a completely different animal with him back there. While I've always appreciated watching him take away one side of the field, it's nothing like watching that happen almost every week for the home team.
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Coach wrote:Man, Revis needs to stay.
100% agree.
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elliseamos wrote:
Coach wrote:Man, Revis needs to stay.
100% agree.
Do you think they pay him $20 million to stay next year? That's what he's getting unless the Pats cut him before free agency starts.
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Green Habit wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
Coach wrote:Man, Revis needs to stay.
100% agree.
Do you think they pay him $20 million to stay next year? That's what he's getting unless the Pats cut him before free agency starts.
I almost say "yes," because next to Brady, Revis is the most valuable player on the team. Maybe they can rip up the agreement and get Revis more $$ up front. I dunno. Where there's a will, there's a way. Revis is a great fit in the locker room. Really well spoken. Does great with the local fans and media. Boston can rub sensitive athletes the wrong way, but Revis is anything but sensitive.
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Coach wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
Coach wrote:Man, Revis needs to stay.
100% agree.
Do you think they pay him $20 million to stay next year? That's what he's getting unless the Pats cut him before free agency starts.
I almost say "yes," because next to Brady, Revis is the most valuable player on the team. Maybe they can rip up the agreement and get Revis more $$ up front. I dunno. Where there's a will, there's a way. Revis is a great fit in the locker room. Really well spoken. Does great with the local fans and media. Boston can rub sensitive athletes the wrong way, but Revis is anything but sensitive.
I mean after he gets Brady his 4th ring in a few weeks, Golden Boy will probably play for the minimum to keep Revis in NE. He isn't going anywhere.
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4/5 wrote:
Coach wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
Coach wrote:Man, Revis needs to stay.
100% agree.
Do you think they pay him $20 million to stay next year? That's what he's getting unless the Pats cut him before free agency starts.
I almost say "yes," because next to Brady, Revis is the most valuable player on the team. Maybe they can rip up the agreement and get Revis more $$ up front. I dunno. Where there's a will, there's a way. Revis is a great fit in the locker room. Really well spoken. Does great with the local fans and media. Boston can rub sensitive athletes the wrong way, but Revis is anything but sensitive.
I mean after he gets Brady his 4th ring in a few weeks, Golden Boy will probably play for the minimum to keep Revis in NE. He isn't going anywhere.
i'd expect a restructure of his existing deal as soon as they possibly can, but not in a fashion that puts him on the open market.
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4/5 wrote:
Coach wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
Coach wrote:Man, Revis needs to stay.
100% agree.
Do you think they pay him $20 million to stay next year? That's what he's getting unless the Pats cut him before free agency starts.
I almost say "yes," because next to Brady, Revis is the most valuable player on the team. Maybe they can rip up the agreement and get Revis more $$ up front. I dunno. Where there's a will, there's a way. Revis is a great fit in the locker room. Really well spoken. Does great with the local fans and media. Boston can rub sensitive athletes the wrong way, but Revis is anything but sensitive.
I mean after he gets Brady his 4th ring in a few weeks, Golden Boy will probably play for the minimum to keep Revis in NE. He isn't going anywhere.
If Brady got a 4th SB, he'd desperately want a 5th - it would break the record. So in that respect, I guess it's possible he'd take less again, but "sources," reported in the media, indicate Brady wants a big deal $$$ when his current one ends.
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elliseamos wrote:i'd expect a restructure of his existing deal as soon as they possibly can, but not in a fashion that puts him on the open market.
I think the word you're looking for is "extension". :) As it stands now he only has one year left, so if they're going to lower that number an extension is the only way to do it. The questions will be if Revis's demands are still astronomical, and if the Pats are willing to play ball with such demand.
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Coach wrote:If Brady got a 4th SB, he'd desperately want a 5th - it would break the record. So in that respect, I guess it's possible he'd take less again, but "sources," reported in the media, indicate Brady wants a big deal $$$ when his current one ends.
Brady will be 41 when his current contract ends. I know he's amazing, but it's highly unlikely he's getting a big deal then.
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Green Habit wrote:
Coach wrote:If Brady got a 4th SB, he'd desperately want a 5th - it would break the record. So in that respect, I guess it's possible he'd take less again, but "sources," reported in the media, indicate Brady wants a big deal $$$ when his current one ends.
Brady will be 41 when his current contract ends. I know he's amazing, but it's highly unlikely he's getting a big deal then.
The general consensus is that he will want to rip that deal up ahead of time and restructure the contract.

That idea isn't far fetched especially when you consider the recent all out PR effort (latest example is the SI article) by his internal team to highlight the brain exercises and other unconventional training he's doing to put himself in a competitive position to play even into his mid to late 40s.

I wouldn't be shocked if he plays till 47-48 years old at a relatively high level.
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Brady will play for the league minimum for 3 years, and then immediately be hired as the most expensive "Special Consultant" in the history of sports.
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If the stuff he's doing really prevents injuries (I listened to him chat about this for 15 min on local radio) and is sort of a (legal) fountain of youth for NFL players, then yes, he'll make more money as he did allude to the fact that he wants to get into that business of fitness/health, etc, after football, which is a departure from what fans had assumed: That he'd run for Senate.
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Coach wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Coach wrote:If Brady got a 4th SB, he'd desperately want a 5th - it would break the record. So in that respect, I guess it's possible he'd take less again, but "sources," reported in the media, indicate Brady wants a big deal $$$ when his current one ends.
Brady will be 41 when his current contract ends. I know he's amazing, but it's highly unlikely he's getting a big deal then.
The general consensus is that he will want to rip that deal up ahead of time and restructure the contract.

That idea isn't far fetched especially when you consider the recent all out PR effort (latest example is the SI article) by his internal team to highlight the brain exercises and other unconventional training he's doing to put himself in a competitive position to play even into his mid to late 40s.

I wouldn't be shocked if he plays till 47-48 years old at a relatively high level.
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spike wrote:
Coach wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Coach wrote:If Brady got a 4th SB, he'd desperately want a 5th - it would break the record. So in that respect, I guess it's possible he'd take less again, but "sources," reported in the media, indicate Brady wants a big deal $$$ when his current one ends.
Brady will be 41 when his current contract ends. I know he's amazing, but it's highly unlikely he's getting a big deal then.
The general consensus is that he will want to rip that deal up ahead of time and restructure the contract.

That idea isn't far fetched especially when you consider the recent all out PR effort (latest example is the SI article) by his internal team to highlight the brain exercises and other unconventional training he's doing to put himself in a competitive position to play even into his mid to late 40s.

I wouldn't be shocked if he plays till 47-48 years old at a relatively high level.
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There's pretty much 10 or so good QBs in the NFL and the rest is complete crap. So, by "relatively high level," I don't view that as a high benchmark to reach these days in the NFL...there's probably 5-10 retired QBs that could return and compete for starting jobs right now. The NFL has a serious problem with QBs. I only need to watch the RedZone to confirm this.
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Coach wrote:there's probably 5-10 retired QBs that could return and compete for starting jobs right now.


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@SkitchP wrote:
Coach wrote:there's probably 5-10 retired QBs that could return and compete for starting jobs right now.


name 3.
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Coach wrote:
spike wrote:
Coach wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Coach wrote:If Brady got a 4th SB, he'd desperately want a 5th - it would break the record. So in that respect, I guess it's possible he'd take less again, but "sources," reported in the media, indicate Brady wants a big deal $$$ when his current one ends.
Brady will be 41 when his current contract ends. I know he's amazing, but it's highly unlikely he's getting a big deal then.
The general consensus is that he will want to rip that deal up ahead of time and restructure the contract.

That idea isn't far fetched especially when you consider the recent all out PR effort (latest example is the SI article) by his internal team to highlight the brain exercises and other unconventional training he's doing to put himself in a competitive position to play even into his mid to late 40s.

I wouldn't be shocked if he plays till 47-48 years old at a relatively high level.
:haha:
There's pretty much 10 or so good QBs in the NFL and the rest is complete crap. So, by "relatively high level," I don't view that as a high benchmark to reach these days in the NFL...there's probably 5-10 retired QBs that could return and compete for starting jobs right now. The NFL has a serious problem with QBs. I only need to watch the RedZone to confirm this.
I think the bigger shortage is in quality offensive coordinators. I blame RGIII flaming out on the coaching staff and management. To a certain extent, the same for Cutler. The number of sacks he took that one year in Chicago was a disgrace. I think there are enough quality quarterbacks, just too many stuck in offences that are not geared to what they can do well.
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doug rr wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Coach wrote:there's probably 5-10 retired QBs that could return and compete for starting jobs right now.


name 3.
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Leinert comes to mind, as do:

Jon Kitna
Rex Grossman
Seneca Wallace
Tebow
Favre
Vince Young
Brady Quinn
David Garrard
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