Try to Write You a Love Song - A St. Vincent Thread

[LoathedVermin72]

Joey, are you aware that St. Vincent did an episode [of the WTF podcast] recently?

[stip]

to be fair, stip thinks that anything other than sitting quietly in muted flannel colors is inauthentic

Rocking out in muted flannel colors is also perfectly acceptable, provided you don't look like you're enjoying yourself.

[stip]

Isn't theatricality practically an antonym of authenticity?

That would mean that theater is inherently inauthentic and I can't imagine an argument that could convince me of that. So, no. Absolutely not.

Also, what Kaius said.

Isn't it? I'm not saying it can't be powerful or emotionally moving, but you're usually speaking someone else's dialogue and pretending to be people you are not having experiences that you didn't.

[stip]

Also, to be clear, I am not maintaining that something being authentic means that it's better.

[epilogue]

Joey, are you aware that St. Vincent did an episode [of the WTF podcast] recently?

Sorry, yes! I am. It was lovely!

[epilogue]

St. Vincent DELUXE - To be released on February 9th 2015

Tracklisting:

1. Rattlesnake
2. Birth In Reverse
3. Prince Johnny
4. Huey Newton
5. Digital Witness
6. I Prefer Your Love
7. Regret
8. Bring Me Your Loves
9. Psychopath
10. Every Tear Disappears
11. Severed Crossed Fingers
12. Bad Believer
13. Pieta
14. Sparrow
15. Del Rio
16. Digital Witness (DARKSIDE Remix)

[epilogue]

Isn't theatricality practically an antonym of authenticity?

That would mean that theater is inherently inauthentic and I can't imagine an argument that could convince me of that. So, no. Absolutely not.

Also, what Kaius said.

Isn't it? I'm not saying it can't be powerful or emotionally moving, but you're usually speaking someone else's dialogue and pretending to be people you are not having experiences that you didn't.

In my humble opinion art is the truest and most valuable expression of the human experience. And theater is the most honest, real and authentic artistic expression of all artistic. There is no other artform that more accurately and completely embodies the human experience than theater. Therefore, the term "theatricality" does not mean inauthentic, but rather means as authentic as art can be.

[LoathedVermin72]

Isn't theatricality practically an antonym of authenticity?

That would mean that theater is inherently inauthentic and I can't imagine an argument that could convince me of that. So, no. Absolutely not.

Also, what Kaius said.

Isn't it? I'm not saying it can't be powerful or emotionally moving, but you're usually speaking someone else's dialogue and pretending to be people you are not having experiences that you didn't.

In my humble opinion art is the truest and most valuable expression of the human experience. And theater is the most honest, real and authentic artistic expression of all artistic. There is no other artform that more accurately and completely embodies the human experience than theater. Therefore, the term "theatricality" does not mean inauthentic, but rather means as authentic as art can be.

I'd be curious to hear your justification for this claim.

[epilogue]

Isn't theatricality practically an antonym of authenticity?

That would mean that theater is inherently inauthentic and I can't imagine an argument that could convince me of that. So, no. Absolutely not.

Also, what Kaius said.

Isn't it? I'm not saying it can't be powerful or emotionally moving, but you're usually speaking someone else's dialogue and pretending to be people you are not having experiences that you didn't.

In my humble opinion art is the truest and most valuable expression of the human experience. And theater is the most honest, real and authentic artistic expression of all artistic. There is no other artform that more accurately and completely embodies the human experience than theater. Therefore, the term "theatricality" does not mean inauthentic, but rather means as authentic as art can be.

I'd be curious to hear your justification for this claim.

Would you really? Or is this a trap?

[BurtReynolds]

[epilogue]

[Kevin Davis]

St. Vincent DELUXE - To be released on February 9th 2015

Tracklisting:

1. Rattlesnake
2. Birth In Reverse
3. Prince Johnny
4. Huey Newton
5. Digital Witness
6. I Prefer Your Love
7. Regret
8. Bring Me Your Loves
9. Psychopath
10. Every Tear Disappears
11. Severed Crossed Fingers
12. Bad Believer
13. Pieta
14. Sparrow
15. Del Rio
16. Digital Witness (DARKSIDE Remix)

I hate when artists do this so much. I just bought this album 11 months ago -- now it's being released again with more music on it? Just put out an EP.

I am probably one of the last ten people in America that still purchases everything on CD, and this is the sort of thing that makes me feel like piracy is completely justified.

[epilogue]

St. Vincent DELUXE - To be released on February 9th 2015

Tracklisting:

1. Rattlesnake
2. Birth In Reverse
3. Prince Johnny
4. Huey Newton
5. Digital Witness
6. I Prefer Your Love
7. Regret
8. Bring Me Your Loves
9. Psychopath
10. Every Tear Disappears
11. Severed Crossed Fingers
12. Bad Believer
13. Pieta
14. Sparrow
15. Del Rio
16. Digital Witness (DARKSIDE Remix)

I hate when artists do this so much. I just bought this album 11 months ago -- now it's being released again with more music on it? Just put out an EP.

I am probably one of the last ten people in America that still purchases everything on CD, and this is the sort of thing that makes me feel like piracy is completely justified.

I totally feel ya, friend. It's lame as all get out. But don't blame the artist. I'm sure this is a label thing and not an artist thing. Also, Amazon/iTunes is your friend. Just buy the tracks you don't already have. That's what I plan to do. Really, for me, it's only two songs. I have Pieta/Sparrow on vinyl and the Darkside remix of DW has already been released.

[Kevin Davis]

That's probably exactly what I'll do -- I enjoy having the physical product, though.

For most of my favorite artists, I have a homemade collection of "rarity" stuff -- maybe this will be a good excuse to start a St. Vincent one. Do you know what else is out there, Dct? There was that one beautiful track from "Boardwalk Empire," in this thread somewhere I think...

[VinylGuy]

Yeah those deluxes reissues after less than a year seem pretty desperate.

Joey, does she plays champagne year live often?

[epilogue]

Yeah those deluxes reissues after less than a year seem pretty desperate.

Joey, does she plays champagne year live often?

She hasn't much this past year no. A handful of times, but not a ton.

[epilogue]

That's probably exactly what I'll do -- I enjoy having the physical product, though.

For most of my favorite artists, I have a homemade collection of "rarity" stuff -- maybe this will be a good excuse to start a St. Vincent one. Do you know what else is out there, Dct? There was that one beautiful track from "Boardwalk Empire," in this thread somewhere I think...

Yeah, that song from the BE soundtrack is called 'Make Believe' and also features Vince Giordano and the Nighthawks. It's lovely.

Also you should check out 'Krokodil'. That's blistering and amazing. She released it as a single with 'Grot' as the b-side. 'Grot' isn't as good. Both songs came from the Strange Mercy sessions.

'These Days' is another gorgeous cover. She released that as a b-side to 'Paris is Burning' (I think).

'Oh. My. God' and 'Bicycle' are both from the Actor sessions.

Then there's 'The Antidote' from the Twilight: Breaking Dawn Soundrack, which I've heard, but only on YouTube. I don't have good copy of that one. Same with the song 'Roslyn' that she did with Bon Iver for one of the other Twilight movies.

In 2003 she released an EP called Ratsliveonnoevilstar. I've only heard one song from that, though. I liked it.

So, yeah, there's quite a bit out there.

[epilogue]

[epilogue]

OH! and earlier in this thread platy posted a live video of her covering Big Black Mariah by Tom Waits. That's fucking GREAT.

[epilogue]

to be fair, stip thinks that anything other than sitting quietly in muted flannel colors is inauthentic

Rocking out in muted flannel colors is also perfectly acceptable, provided you don't look like you're enjoying yourself.

I missed this post.