New England Patriots

[Yeddie Yedder]

When married to international supermodel…elite quarterback money is chump-change

Go Pats.

[elliseamos]

Interesting.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/i ... -more-cash

In a deal turned into the NFL office Monday, quarterback Tom Brady restructured his contract to give the New England Patriots $24 million more in cash to spend this offseason, according to league sources.

Tom Brady restructured his contract to give the Patriots $24 million more in cash to spend this offseason, according to sources.
Under the new deal, Brady changed the $24 million in "skill" guarantee to only "injury" guarantee, meaning that Brady now would get the guaranteed money only if he were injured.

Brady also now can be released by the Patriots without any liability, but he then would become an unrestricted free agent, free to command the type of guaranteed money he has agreed to surrender.

The move frees up cash for the Patriots to use on other players. New England needs the cash to help re-sign some of its own free agents, including cornerback Darrelle Revis, safety Devin McCourty, tackle Nate Solder and running back Shane Vereen, among others.

from what i've read this doesn't change his cap hit, only the guaranteed money that kraft et al. can 100% plan to spend next year. if that's the case, how does this help the team pay for solder, revis, and mccourty? and along the same lines, what are their options for revis? can they add years to his deal to restructure his $25M cap hit next year? or is their only option to cut him (while still having him count $5M against the cap and exposing him to the other 31 teams) and then hope that a hand-shake agreement to re-sign him for something starting at the guaranteed $25M keeps him here for many years to come?

somebody turn on the thodoks beacon.

[Green Habit]

Interesting.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/i ... -more-cash

In a deal turned into the NFL office Monday, quarterback Tom Brady restructured his contract to give the New England Patriots $24 million more in cash to spend this offseason, according to league sources.

Tom Brady restructured his contract to give the Patriots $24 million more in cash to spend this offseason, according to sources.
Under the new deal, Brady changed the $24 million in "skill" guarantee to only "injury" guarantee, meaning that Brady now would get the guaranteed money only if he were injured.

Brady also now can be released by the Patriots without any liability, but he then would become an unrestricted free agent, free to command the type of guaranteed money he has agreed to surrender.

The move frees up cash for the Patriots to use on other players. New England needs the cash to help re-sign some of its own free agents, including cornerback Darrelle Revis, safety Devin McCourty, tackle Nate Solder and running back Shane Vereen, among others.

from what i've read this doesn't change his cap hit, only the guaranteed money that kraft et al. can 100% plan to spend next year. if that's the case, how does this help the team pay for solder, revis, and mccourty? and along the same lines, what are their options for revis? can they add years to his deal to restructure his $25M cap hit next year? or is their only option to cut him (while still having him count $5M against the cap and exposing him to the other 31 teams) and then hope that a hand-shake agreement to re-sign him for something starting at the guaranteed $25M keeps him here for many years to come?

somebody turn on the thodoks beacon.

The Brady restructure is purely for cash flow purposes. It's one thing to have cap space, and entirely another to have the cold, hard dollars to use it. To me, this is an indication that the Pats are serious about spending on free agents, even if it's likely to be retaining their own as you correctly implied. As for Revis in particular, you are correct that the only ways to lessen his cap hit are to cut him or extend him. Given this Brady news, I would think that an extension for him is likely. And if that happens, be sure to listen for that sound of simultaneous head explosions coming from Jets fans...

[Coach]

Interesting.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/i ... -more-cash

In a deal turned into the NFL office Monday, quarterback Tom Brady restructured his contract to give the New England Patriots $24 million more in cash to spend this offseason, according to league sources.

Tom Brady restructured his contract to give the Patriots $24 million more in cash to spend this offseason, according to sources.
Under the new deal, Brady changed the $24 million in "skill" guarantee to only "injury" guarantee, meaning that Brady now would get the guaranteed money only if he were injured.

Brady also now can be released by the Patriots without any liability, but he then would become an unrestricted free agent, free to command the type of guaranteed money he has agreed to surrender.

The move frees up cash for the Patriots to use on other players. New England needs the cash to help re-sign some of its own free agents, including cornerback Darrelle Revis, safety Devin McCourty, tackle Nate Solder and running back Shane Vereen, among others.

from what i've read this doesn't change his cap hit, only the guaranteed money that kraft et al. can 100% plan to spend next year. if that's the case, how does this help the team pay for solder, revis, and mccourty? and along the same lines, what are their options for revis? can they add years to his deal to restructure his $25M cap hit next year? or is their only option to cut him (while still having him count $5M against the cap and exposing him to the other 31 teams) and then hope that a hand-shake agreement to re-sign him for something starting at the guaranteed $25M keeps him here for many years to come?

somebody turn on the thodoks beacon.

Here's what I've heard/read in the sports media:

1. If they cut Brady, the Pats would no longer take any kind of significant hit to the cap (unless he got injured), so this gives the Pats incredible movement if they decide to move on from Brady in a few years;

2. More importantly, this frees up the Pats to dish out guaranteed money to their free agents, which allows them to keep these free agents without it counting against the cap.

[Green Habit]

Interesting.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/i ... -more-cash

In a deal turned into the NFL office Monday, quarterback Tom Brady restructured his contract to give the New England Patriots $24 million more in cash to spend this offseason, according to league sources.

Tom Brady restructured his contract to give the Patriots $24 million more in cash to spend this offseason, according to sources.
Under the new deal, Brady changed the $24 million in "skill" guarantee to only "injury" guarantee, meaning that Brady now would get the guaranteed money only if he were injured.

Brady also now can be released by the Patriots without any liability, but he then would become an unrestricted free agent, free to command the type of guaranteed money he has agreed to surrender.

The move frees up cash for the Patriots to use on other players. New England needs the cash to help re-sign some of its own free agents, including cornerback Darrelle Revis, safety Devin McCourty, tackle Nate Solder and running back Shane Vereen, among others.

from what i've read this doesn't change his cap hit, only the guaranteed money that kraft et al. can 100% plan to spend next year. if that's the case, how does this help the team pay for solder, revis, and mccourty? and along the same lines, what are their options for revis? can they add years to his deal to restructure his $25M cap hit next year? or is their only option to cut him (while still having him count $5M against the cap and exposing him to the other 31 teams) and then hope that a hand-shake agreement to re-sign him for something starting at the guaranteed $25M keeps him here for many years to come?

somebody turn on the thodoks beacon.

Here's what I've heard/read in the sports media:

1. If they cut Brady, the Pats would no longer take any kind of significant hit to the cap (unless he got injured), so this gives the Pats incredible movement if they decide to move on from Brady in a few years;

2. More importantly, this frees up the Pats to dish out guaranteed money to their free agents, which allows them to keep these free agents without it counting against the cap.

That's essentially correct. I'll add a couple qualifiers:

1. Though it gives the Pats freedom to cut Brady, it's hardly a risk for him because he'll likely find some other team willing to pony up even if he's well past his prime.
2. Guaranteed money still counts against the cap. What I did read is that from a cash perspective, any guaranteed actual dollars must be put in a separate account for the player. With Brady essentially waiving this requirement it allows the Pats to instead immediately sink that cash into retaining Revis, et al.

[Coach]

Interesting.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/i ... -more-cash

In a deal turned into the NFL office Monday, quarterback Tom Brady restructured his contract to give the New England Patriots $24 million more in cash to spend this offseason, according to league sources.

Tom Brady restructured his contract to give the Patriots $24 million more in cash to spend this offseason, according to sources.
Under the new deal, Brady changed the $24 million in "skill" guarantee to only "injury" guarantee, meaning that Brady now would get the guaranteed money only if he were injured.

Brady also now can be released by the Patriots without any liability, but he then would become an unrestricted free agent, free to command the type of guaranteed money he has agreed to surrender.

The move frees up cash for the Patriots to use on other players. New England needs the cash to help re-sign some of its own free agents, including cornerback Darrelle Revis, safety Devin McCourty, tackle Nate Solder and running back Shane Vereen, among others.

from what i've read this doesn't change his cap hit, only the guaranteed money that kraft et al. can 100% plan to spend next year. if that's the case, how does this help the team pay for solder, revis, and mccourty? and along the same lines, what are their options for revis? can they add years to his deal to restructure his $25M cap hit next year? or is their only option to cut him (while still having him count $5M against the cap and exposing him to the other 31 teams) and then hope that a hand-shake agreement to re-sign him for something starting at the guaranteed $25M keeps him here for many years to come?

somebody turn on the thodoks beacon.

Here's what I've heard/read in the sports media:

1. If they cut Brady, the Pats would no longer take any kind of significant hit to the cap (unless he got injured), so this gives the Pats incredible movement if they decide to move on from Brady in a few years;

2. More importantly, this frees up the Pats to dish out guaranteed money to their free agents, which allows them to keep these free agents without it counting against the cap.

That's essentially correct. I'll add a couple qualifiers:

1. Though it gives the Pats freedom to cut Brady, it's hardly a risk for him because he'll likely find some other team willing to pony up even if he's well past his prime.
2. Guaranteed money still counts against the cap. What I did read is that from a cash perspective, any guaranteed actual dollars must be put in a separate account for the player. With Brady essentially waiving this requirement it allows the Pats to instead immediately sink that cash into retaining Revis, et al.

Gotcha, it's complicated

[Coach]

[spike]

so brady's already lost his cool. could be a long day for pats nation.

[Green Habit]

Can't say that I liked the result of that game, but goddamn it was still entertaining. Belichick at his finest. When Brady threw that backward pass to Edelman I was like "Oh shit...that's a TD." Congrats Pats, gotta think the AFC's going to be yours this time around.

[Electromatic]

Coach I'm glad there are fans like you in the world. Gives a little hope to the hopeless sports fan.

[Coach]

[Simple Torture]

So was the clock in the last two minutes a boner, or was that BB's plan all along?

[spike]

i want to like the patriots, but they can be so fucking smug it's intolerable:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/st ... -deception

yeah, it's a legal substitution/formation, but you knew what you were doing, tom/bill/fucking josh mcdaniels. don't act all righteous about it when the opposing team calls you on your bullshit loopholes.

[@SkitchP]

i want to like the patriots, but they can be so fucking smug it's intolerable:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/st ... -deception

yeah, it's a legal substitution/formation, but you knew what you were doing, tom/bill/fucking josh mcdaniels. don't act all righteous about it when the opposing team calls you on your bullshit loopholes.

Bullshit loophole? I don't know man. I think that if we start trying to further legislate formations, the NFL is going to get really boring. The rules have always been 7 men on the line with only the 2 ends being eligible. Football has never required that 5 be in the middle. It's just a boring, conventional view of an offense. Realistically, I think there is a huge opportunity in the NFL (and college for that matter) for a coach who is able to create a system that deviates from the standard offensive line.

[Green Habit]

Plus, the Ravens are likely butthurt over being unable to get to Brady with only four OL to protect him.

[spike]

i want to like the patriots, but they can be so fucking smug it's intolerable:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/st ... -deception

yeah, it's a legal substitution/formation, but you knew what you were doing, tom/bill/fucking josh mcdaniels. don't act all righteous about it when the opposing team calls you on your bullshit loopholes.

Bullshit loophole? I don't know man. I think that if we start trying to further legislate formations, the NFL is going to get really boring. The rules have always been 7 men on the line with only the 2 ends being eligible. Football has never required that 5 be in the middle. It's just a boring, conventional view of an offense. Realistically, I think there is a huge opportunity in the NFL (and college for that matter) for a coach who is able to create a system that deviates from the standard offensive line.

i don't have a problem with the formation, i have a problem with brady hurrying to the line before the ravens can identify what's happening, then after the game acting like he was just out there playing straight up football. that's where i'm coming from; perhaps loophole isn't the perfect word for it.

[spike]

Plus, the Ravens are likely butthurt over being unable to get to Brady with only four OL to protect him.

well yeah, this would be a non story if the ravens had won. definitely some butthurting going on.

[@SkitchP]

i want to like the patriots, but they can be so fucking smug it's intolerable:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/st ... -deception

yeah, it's a legal substitution/formation, but you knew what you were doing, tom/bill/fucking josh mcdaniels. don't act all righteous about it when the opposing team calls you on your bullshit loopholes.

Bullshit loophole? I don't know man. I think that if we start trying to further legislate formations, the NFL is going to get really boring. The rules have always been 7 men on the line with only the 2 ends being eligible. Football has never required that 5 be in the middle. It's just a boring, conventional view of an offense. Realistically, I think there is a huge opportunity in the NFL (and college for that matter) for a coach who is able to create a system that deviates from the standard offensive line.

i don't have a problem with the formation, i have a problem with brady hurrying to the line before the ravens can identify what's happening, then after the game acting like he was just out there playing straight up football. that's where i'm coming from; perhaps loophole isn't the perfect word for it.

Do you have a problem with Flea-Flickers? Counters? Reverses and End Arounds?

Misdirection and deception within the rules is pretty much how you play football.

[spike]

i want to like the patriots, but they can be so fucking smug it's intolerable:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/st ... -deception

yeah, it's a legal substitution/formation, but you knew what you were doing, tom/bill/fucking josh mcdaniels. don't act all righteous about it when the opposing team calls you on your bullshit loopholes.

Bullshit loophole? I don't know man. I think that if we start trying to further legislate formations, the NFL is going to get really boring. The rules have always been 7 men on the line with only the 2 ends being eligible. Football has never required that 5 be in the middle. It's just a boring, conventional view of an offense. Realistically, I think there is a huge opportunity in the NFL (and college for that matter) for a coach who is able to create a system that deviates from the standard offensive line.

i don't have a problem with the formation, i have a problem with brady hurrying to the line before the ravens can identify what's happening, then after the game acting like he was just out there playing straight up football. that's where i'm coming from; perhaps loophole isn't the perfect word for it.

Do you have a problem with Flea-Flickers? Counters? Reverses and End Arounds?

Misdirection and deception within the rules is pretty much how you play football.

you've again missed my point, not sure how much more clear i can be by stating that i don't have a problem with the formation.

[@SkitchP]

Do you have a problem with Flea-Flickers? Counters? Reverses and End Arounds?

Misdirection and deception within the rules is pretty much how you play football.

you've again missed my point, not sure how much more clear i can be by stating that i don't have a problem with the formation.

Yes, you have a problem with the deception of not letting the defense react to it, correct?