New England Patriots

[spike]

Do you have a problem with Flea-Flickers? Counters? Reverses and End Arounds?

Misdirection and deception within the rules is pretty much how you play football.

you've again missed my point, not sure how much more clear i can be by stating that i don't have a problem with the formation.

Yes, you have a problem with the deception of not letting the defense react to it, correct?

no, i have a problem with tom brady's smugness.

[@SkitchP]

Do you have a problem with Flea-Flickers? Counters? Reverses and End Arounds?

Misdirection and deception within the rules is pretty much how you play football.

you've again missed my point, not sure how much more clear i can be by stating that i don't have a problem with the formation.

Yes, you have a problem with the deception of not letting the defense react to it, correct?

no, i have a problem with tom brady's smugness.

But... he's right. Why shouldn't he be smug when someone is attacking them and essentially calling them dirty when they did nothing wrong?

[doug rr]

pliny

[spike]

Do you have a problem with Flea-Flickers? Counters? Reverses and End Arounds?

Misdirection and deception within the rules is pretty much how you play football.

you've again missed my point, not sure how much more clear i can be by stating that i don't have a problem with the formation.

Yes, you have a problem with the deception of not letting the defense react to it, correct?

no, i have a problem with tom brady's smugness.

But... he's right. Why shouldn't he be smug when someone is attacking them and essentially calling them dirty when they did nothing wrong?

because acting smug is lame, skitch.

[@SkitchP]

Do you have a problem with Flea-Flickers? Counters? Reverses and End Arounds?

Misdirection and deception within the rules is pretty much how you play football.

you've again missed my point, not sure how much more clear i can be by stating that i don't have a problem with the formation.

Yes, you have a problem with the deception of not letting the defense react to it, correct?

no, i have a problem with tom brady's smugness.

But... he's right. Why shouldn't he be smug when someone is attacking them and essentially calling them dirty when they did nothing wrong?

because acting smug is lame, skitch.

Agreed.


unless you're just doing it in response to someone whining about losing.

[spike]

Do you have a problem with Flea-Flickers? Counters? Reverses and End Arounds?

Misdirection and deception within the rules is pretty much how you play football.

you've again missed my point, not sure how much more clear i can be by stating that i don't have a problem with the formation.

Yes, you have a problem with the deception of not letting the defense react to it, correct?

no, i have a problem with tom brady's smugness.

But... he's right. Why shouldn't he be smug when someone is attacking them and essentially calling them dirty when they did nothing wrong?

because acting smug is lame, skitch.

Agreed.


unless you're just doing it in response to someone whining about losing.

so it's cool with you if i'm smug about the outcome of our interaction here

[@SkitchP]

Do you have a problem with Flea-Flickers? Counters? Reverses and End Arounds?

Misdirection and deception within the rules is pretty much how you play football.

you've again missed my point, not sure how much more clear i can be by stating that i don't have a problem with the formation.

Yes, you have a problem with the deception of not letting the defense react to it, correct?

no, i have a problem with tom brady's smugness.

But... he's right. Why shouldn't he be smug when someone is attacking them and essentially calling them dirty when they did nothing wrong?

because acting smug is lame, skitch.

Agreed.


unless you're just doing it in response to someone whining about losing.

so it's cool with you if i'm smug about the outcome of our interaction here

You're smug anyway spike. And it's okay by me.

[spike]

[numbers]

If Chip Kelly or someone like that did it, it would be called genius and innovative. When Bellichick does it, it's uncalled for and cheating.

[spike]

chip kelly wasn't involved in spygate and doesn't possess the personality of a roiling hemorrhoid.

[lennytheweedwhacker]

you're coming off pretty whiny here, spike

[@SkitchP]

you're coming off pretty whiny here, spike

Wait. So I get to be smug then?

I could make all the tables turn.

[lennytheweedwhacker]

you're coming off pretty whiny here, spike

Wait. So I get to be smug then?

I could make all the tables turn.

go lions

[Norah]

you're coming off pretty whiny here, spike

Wait. So I get to be smug then?

I could make all the tables turn.

This thread has become a rose garden filled with thorns.

[spike]

you're coming off pretty whiny here, spike

Wait. So I get to be smug then?

I could make all the tables turn.

You're smug anyway skitch. And it's okay by me.

[@SkitchP]

[Self]

I'm totally biased, but I think a little smugness may have been in order after whinebag brother #1's comments.

[Orpheus]

I've reviewed this argument, and after review...touchdown Seahawks.

[Orpheus]

On a more philosophical note I hate that the Patriots were the ones to pull that out in a playoff game. Totally prevents me from enjoying it. Really hoping they try it against the Colts and Pagano is totally ready for it and it winds up being a horrendous sack.

[Coach]

i want to like the patriots, but they can be so fucking smug it's intolerable:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/st ... -deception

yeah, it's a legal substitution/formation, but you knew what you were doing, tom/bill/fucking josh mcdaniels. don't act all righteous about it when the opposing team calls you on your bullshit loopholes.

I think you're incredibly dishonest, Spike. You don't want to really want to like the Patriots. You hate the Patriots because they win all the time. I had the same feelings about Dallas during the 90s as a kid. I see where you are coming from. It sucks, I know. But on this item, you are 100 percent wrong on all accounts.

Belichick simply out coached the Ravens here. The Ravens should have had a coach overhead identifying the fact that the Pats were only using four offensive lineman. The inactive player is clearly making it known to the ref that he was inactive. As several commentators pointed out, having a Ravens coach being on the lookout from above (especially after it happens three times in the same game!) is where the Ravens failed.

I find Harbaugh's bitching and false accusations more insulting than any perceived smugness from Brady. The Pats are out to win football games, not a "please like me contest," and I'm pretty sure Brady was smug because he was surprised that Harbaugh took a totally unfair personal shot at Belichick.