The Wire

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Tue January 13, 2015 6:25 pm

Ziggy Sobotka might be my least favorite person on the show.

numbers · Post by **numbers** » Tue January 13, 2015 11:45 pm

Marlo or gtfo.

Post by **Alex** » Wed January 14, 2015 2:15 pm

my least favorite character is omar

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Wed January 14, 2015 3:28 pm

ok alex

@SkitchP · Post by **@SkitchP** » Wed January 14, 2015 3:34 pm

To me Omar is to the Wire what GOB is to Arrested Development. A great character for sure, and a pretty easy one to latch on to in order to "get into" the show. But the more you watch it, you start to appreciate other characters quite a bit more. Omar (and GOB) aren't any worse than they were initially, it's just that you start to realize more and more how great the other characters are, so Omar and GOB get surpassed.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Wed January 14, 2015 3:39 pm

Post by **Alex** » Wed January 14, 2015 3:42 pm

i was kidding. my least favorite character is actually nick sobotka. ziggy is irritating as hell, but i think his arc capably illustrated what happens to characters who do not embody the requisite traits of their institutions. kind of like mcnulty, except it wasn't protracted over five seasons.

Simple Torture · Post by **Simple Torture** » Wed January 14, 2015 3:54 pm

@SkitchP wrote:To me Omar is to the Wire what GOB is to Arrested Development. A great character for sure, and a pretty easy one to latch on to in order to "get into" the show. But the more you watch it, you start to appreciate other characters quite a bit more. Omar (and GOB) aren't any worse than they were initially, it's just that you start to realize more and more how great the other characters are, so Omar and GOB get surpassed.

Omar has also gotten to the point where he is The Wire, meaning his character is basically an expression of the series as a whole. If you want to understand the "rules" underpinning the entire series, they're basically all summed up in this one character (he's full of contradictions, not what he appears to be on the surface, his "code"). So many people call him the series' "best character" but I feel like they're just reacting to the fact that when you realize The Wire is a special piece of art, it's around the same time that Omar's layers start to get peeled back. As Skitch is saying, it kinda blinds you to the fact that there are other subtle characterizations of other people that are more intriguing and ambiguous.

Who wants to resurrect the AD thread so we can list our favorite characters (GOB excluded)?

@SkitchP · Post by **@SkitchP** » Wed January 14, 2015 4:19 pm

we're waiting, ST.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Wed January 14, 2015 4:32 pm

Fuck that, I ain't waiting.

Simple Torture · Post by **Simple Torture** » Wed January 14, 2015 4:36 pm

@SkitchP wrote:we're waiting, ST.

I haven't watched it in so long, it's going to take a while to come up with a list. Lupe's Uncle is in there.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Thu January 15, 2015 4:34 am

definitely enjoying season 2 a lot more this time around

Post by **The Argonaut** » Thu January 15, 2015 5:58 am

Best moment of season two so far: Frank Sobotka's enraged history of union busters 1960 to present.

Orpheus · Post by **Orpheus** » Thu January 15, 2015 8:01 am

I respect the analysis of Omar, but to me he is pretty much king of the hill. I'll randomly think of the ltitle exchange between him and Stringer in the courtroom and laugh my ass off. One of the best TV moments ever.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Thu January 15, 2015 3:57 pm

The Argonaut wrote:Best moment of season two so far: Frank Sobotka's enraged history of union busters 1960 to present.

Just watched that one last night.

numbers · Post by **numbers** » Thu January 15, 2015 6:16 pm

Season 2 is so fucking good.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Thu January 15, 2015 6:38 pm

It really is. I definitely didn't appreciate it enough the first time around.

numbers · Post by **numbers** » Thu January 15, 2015 8:07 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:It really is. I definitely didn't appreciate it enough the first time around.

Yeah, its neck and neck with s4.

darth_vedder · Post by **darth_vedder** » Fri January 16, 2015 6:08 pm

I don't feel Carver gets enough love. I think his character arc is pretty good from where he starts in s1, and ends in s5.

numbers · Post by **numbers** » Fri January 16, 2015 6:10 pm

Carver's overall arc is really good, but I feel like you have to watch the series a few times over to appreciate it.

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