A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
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bodysnatcher wrote:All I know is that I messaged my wife earlier about this, and my iphone's autocorrect knew to put an é on the end of Beyoncé, and it changed "Beck" to "neck"
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soma, you should bring your rage to your thread in GD while it's roiling
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Maybe if something interesting pops up.
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what if it were a cuba gooding jr emotionally torturing a macaulay culkin, for example?Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
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Let's make that movie.lennytheweedwhacker wrote:what if it were a cuba gooding jr emotionally torturing a macaulay culkin, for example?Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
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I think Soma's got a point in all this. I mean, a similar thing happened with Gone Girl. It's not unprecedented.Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
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1. We shouldn't be making movies based on how the lowest-com-denom is gonna react.Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
2. There's no reason the teacher has to be white.
3. I need to see the movie before I go any further with this debate.
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I loved this movie.
I agree with LV though, that Miles Teller should have played a black jazz drummer.
I agree with LV though, that Miles Teller should have played a black jazz drummer.
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Oh, the teacher has to be white. Unless you want to see J.K Simmons in black face.
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Not gonna re-open that argument.durdencommatyler wrote:I think Soma's got a point in all this. I mean, a similar thing happened with Gone Girl. It's not unprecedented.Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
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What are you knuckle draggers even talking about? Thread integrity, please.
bodysnatcher wrote:All I know is that I messaged my wife earlier about this, and my iphone's autocorrect knew to put an é on the end of Beyoncé, and it changed "Beck" to "neck"
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well, there's a distinct trend in that thread of posters concurrently expressing that we don't understand what you're saying a lot of the time. i think that's pretty interesting. i'm about to suggest that it's a kind of new zealand slang barrier, but i figured i'd let you get the first word.Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:Maybe if something interesting pops up.
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Hi my name is Jordan McAssfuck and I know so much about movies that I don't even need to see them in order to engage in a debate about their overall intention and message.LoathedVermin72 wrote:I need to see the movie before I go any further with this debate.
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i am all in...and i've never been more sincere about anything in my lifetheplatypus wrote:Let's make that movie.lennytheweedwhacker wrote:what if it were a cuba gooding jr emotionally torturing a macaulay culkin, for example?Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
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Soma has correctly summed it up here.Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:The obsession with ambition and legacy, morally ambiguous methods of extracting worth from others, the sense of achieving vicariously and whether the ends justify the means.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Please elaborate on what you feel the "point" is that audiences would have missed if the character were black.Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:Are you serious? That's not my point at all. The protagonist is psychologically tortured by Simmons' character throughout. If he was black the masses would have missed the point and gotten their LV/Jorge minority defense mechanism on, and the film would have failed at the Box Office.Alex wrote:making a movie about a black jazz musician, in and of itself, would not be racist. i'm not sure why you think it would be.
You should totally see the film.
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What the fuck do you want, man? I admitted I need to see it before going any further. I was merely explaining my trepidation regarding the film based on what I currently know about it.Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:Hi my name is Jordan McAssfuck and I know so much about movies that I don't even need to see them in order to engage in a debate about their overall intention and message.LoathedVermin72 wrote:I need to see the movie before I go any further with this debate.
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Luv ya, booo.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Not gonna re-open that argument.durdencommatyler wrote:I think Soma's got a point in all this. I mean, a similar thing happened with Gone Girl. It's not unprecedented.Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:A white man emotionally torturing a black man for an hour and a half would dim the vision of the lowest common denominator and seasoned umbrage-taker alike.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Still don't know what that has to do with making the character white, but okay.
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That's the exact opposite of what Jordan McAssfuck said and you know it.Iprefertheiroldstuff wrote:Hi my name is Jordan McAssfuck and I know so much about movies that I don't even need to see them in order to engage in a debate about their overall intention and message.LoathedVermin72 wrote:I need to see the movie before I go any further with this debate.
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Another thing to be outraged about before seeing the movie:
The main character's hero is Buddy Rich - a WHITE jazz drummer!
The main character's hero is Buddy Rich - a WHITE jazz drummer!
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bodysnatcher wrote:All I know is that I messaged my wife earlier about this, and my iphone's autocorrect knew to put an é on the end of Beyoncé, and it changed "Beck" to "neck"