D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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Hitchhiker.
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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stip wrote:Hitchhiker is one of their worst songs, period.
You fool!
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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I can't explain why I like Hitchhiker as much as I do. Those lyrics are ridiculous.

Obviously it's nowhere near Rival, though.
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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I don't know if it's necessarily better, it probably isn't, but I'm going for Hitchhiker.

I've never been very fond of Rival while Hitchhiker is always enjoyable for what it is.
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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I've always loved Hitchhiker, and it's probably one of my favorite songs from Lost Dogs that was completely unreleased. I don't understand the hate around it? Other than "it sucks!" what are some valid points against it? I don't mean that in a confrontational way bc I like it, I'm honestly curious why it's considered a terrible song by so many people.
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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I'm with you, 'natcher.
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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bodysnatcher wrote:I've always loved Hitchhiker, and it's probably one of my favorite songs from Lost Dogs that was completely unreleased. I don't understand the hate around it? Other than "it sucks!" what are some valid points against it? I don't mean that in a confrontational way bc I like it, I'm honestly curious why it's considered a terrible song by so many people.
It's almost certainly the lyrics, right?
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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I love the breakdown bridge. It just becomes completely unhinged, like you're in some weird freefall, and then *BOOM* the parachute opens and you finish the song
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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tommymtcom wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:I've always loved Hitchhiker, and it's probably one of my favorite songs from Lost Dogs that was completely unreleased. I don't understand the hate around it? Other than "it sucks!" what are some valid points against it? I don't mean that in a confrontational way bc I like it, I'm honestly curious why it's considered a terrible song by so many people.
It's almost certainly the lyrics, right?
Yeah, but the guy who loves the fixer hates hitchhiker so...
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tommymtcom wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:I've always loved Hitchhiker, and it's probably one of my favorite songs from Lost Dogs that was completely unreleased. I don't understand the hate around it? Other than "it sucks!" what are some valid points against it? I don't mean that in a confrontational way bc I like it, I'm honestly curious why it's considered a terrible song by so many people.
It's almost certainly the lyrics, right?
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I kinda like them :oops:
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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cutuphalfdead wrote:
tommymtcom wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:I've always loved Hitchhiker, and it's probably one of my favorite songs from Lost Dogs that was completely unreleased. I don't understand the hate around it? Other than "it sucks!" what are some valid points against it? I don't mean that in a confrontational way bc I like it, I'm honestly curious why it's considered a terrible song by so many people.
It's almost certainly the lyrics, right?
Yeah, but the guy who loves the fixer hates hitchhiker so...
It doesn't matter what Stip thinks, Chud. All that matters is what the lyrics mean to you.
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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tommymtcom wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
tommymtcom wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:I've always loved Hitchhiker, and it's probably one of my favorite songs from Lost Dogs that was completely unreleased. I don't understand the hate around it? Other than "it sucks!" what are some valid points against it? I don't mean that in a confrontational way bc I like it, I'm honestly curious why it's considered a terrible song by so many people.
It's almost certainly the lyrics, right?
Yeah, but the guy who loves the fixer hates hitchhiker so...
It doesn't matter what Stip thinks, Chud. All that matters is what the lyrics mean to you.
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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We need a unmastered fade free Rival.
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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Team bodysnatcher.

I voted for Rival because it's definitely the better song. But Hitchhiker is great. I really love it. And I don't think the lyrics are bad at all.
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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LetMeSleep wrote:We need a unmastered fade free Rival.
I'm ok with Rival ending with a fade, it makes sense. However, the fade should happen about 30 seconds later.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:We need a unmastered fade free Rival.
I'm ok with Rival ending with a fade, it makes sense. However, the fade should happen about 30 seconds later.
Agreed. Definitely not a fade that bugs me. Not sure how the song would end otherwise, would sound strange if it just stopped
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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Just to be clear, I like hitchhiker and don't mind the lyrics, but I can see how others wouldn't like it.

Either way, Rival is better.
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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Rival's the only PJ song I can think of off the top of my head that has a fade that I like.
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durdencommatyler wrote:Rival's the only PJ song I can think of off the top of my head that has a fade that I like.
Oh man not me. Like chud said, I don't mind the fade out, but I just think it happens too soon. The song needs another 15 to 20 seconds or so.
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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stip wrote:Rival is one of the best songs on Binaural. Hitchhiker is one of their worst songs, period.
Wrong. Hitchhiker is awesome. One of their best bridges actually.

Stil, Rival takes this.
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Re: D3 Round2w: Rival vs. Hitchhiker

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A fade like Rival is almost certainly because they either stopped soon after and liked the fade, or there's a trainwreck around the corner. I just want more Rival.
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