Forgot about this vercsh. It has Krusen's playing but also better lyrics?Birds in Hell wrote:I prefer Krusen's playing too. The unreleased version from the Ten sessions (available unofficially on that "Rarities and Unreleased Cuts" working disc) is the definitive version, as far as I'm concerned. Much better than the later recording on the Go single (though I do like Ed's new vocal melody in the bridge on that one.)WtOB? wrote:I prefer the LD Alone and always have because I prefer Dave Krusen's drumming.
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Yes.WtOB? wrote:Forgot about this vercsh. It has Krusen's playing but also better lyrics?Birds in Hell wrote:I prefer Krusen's playing too. The unreleased version from the Ten sessions (available unofficially on that "Rarities and Unreleased Cuts" working disc) is the definitive version, as far as I'm concerned. Much better than the later recording on the Go single (though I do like Ed's new vocal melody in the bridge on that one.)WtOB? wrote:I prefer the LD Alone and always have because I prefer Dave Krusen's drumming.
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Birds in Hell wrote:Yes.WtOB? wrote:Forgot about this vercsh. It has Krusen's playing but also better lyrics?Birds in Hell wrote:I prefer Krusen's playing too. The unreleased version from the Ten sessions (available unofficially on that "Rarities and Unreleased Cuts" working disc) is the definitive version, as far as I'm concerned. Much better than the later recording on the Go single (though I do like Ed's new vocal melody in the bridge on that one.)WtOB? wrote:I prefer the LD Alone and always have because I prefer Dave Krusen's drumming.
Dev wrote:i love listening to the leaked pj song "last word".
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Maybe it's because I (think I did, anyway) heard the LD version first, but it's not bad. At all. Alone is an okay song, and each version is pretty good.
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Yeah, all it's missing is the cool bridge.WtOB? wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Yes.WtOB? wrote:Forgot about this vercsh. It has Krusen's playing but also better lyrics?Birds in Hell wrote:I prefer Krusen's playing too. The unreleased version from the Ten sessions (available unofficially on that "Rarities and Unreleased Cuts" working disc) is the definitive version, as far as I'm concerned. Much better than the later recording on the Go single (though I do like Ed's new vocal melody in the bridge on that one.)WtOB? wrote:I prefer the LD Alone and always have because I prefer Dave Krusen's drumming.
Everything on that Rarities sampler is better. Brother, Alone, Just A Girl, and especially Education. I should listen to that stuff more often.
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where would an individual be able to find such a thing?durdencommatyler wrote:Yeah, all it's missing is the cool bridge.WtOB? wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Yes.WtOB? wrote:Forgot about this vercsh. It has Krusen's playing but also better lyrics?Birds in Hell wrote:I prefer Krusen's playing too. The unreleased version from the Ten sessions (available unofficially on that "Rarities and Unreleased Cuts" working disc) is the definitive version, as far as I'm concerned. Much better than the later recording on the Go single (though I do like Ed's new vocal melody in the bridge on that one.)WtOB? wrote:I prefer the LD Alone and always have because I prefer Dave Krusen's drumming.
Everything on that Rarities sampler is better. Brother, Alone, Just A Girl, and especially Education. I should listen to that stuff more often.
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Just listened to "Education" demo. That song has Jack Irons written all over it. Would love to have heard a version with himdurdencommatyler wrote:Yeah, all it's missing is the cool bridge.WtOB? wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Yes.WtOB? wrote:Forgot about this vercsh. It has Krusen's playing but also better lyrics?Birds in Hell wrote:I prefer Krusen's playing too. The unreleased version from the Ten sessions (available unofficially on that "Rarities and Unreleased Cuts" working disc) is the definitive version, as far as I'm concerned. Much better than the later recording on the Go single (though I do like Ed's new vocal melody in the bridge on that one.)WtOB? wrote:I prefer the LD Alone and always have because I prefer Dave Krusen's drumming.
Everything on that Rarities sampler is better. Brother, Alone, Just A Girl, and especially Education. I should listen to that stuff more often.
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I think Matt handles it just fine.bodysnatcher wrote:Just listened to "Education" demo. That song has Jack Irons written all over it. Would love to have heard a version with himdurdencommatyler wrote:Yeah, all it's missing is the cool bridge.WtOB? wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Yes.WtOB? wrote:Forgot about this vercsh. It has Krusen's playing but also better lyrics?Birds in Hell wrote:I prefer Krusen's playing too. The unreleased version from the Ten sessions (available unofficially on that "Rarities and Unreleased Cuts" working disc) is the definitive version, as far as I'm concerned. Much better than the later recording on the Go single (though I do like Ed's new vocal melody in the bridge on that one.)WtOB? wrote:I prefer the LD Alone and always have because I prefer Dave Krusen's drumming.
Everything on that Rarities sampler is better. Brother, Alone, Just A Girl, and especially Education. I should listen to that stuff more often.
Dev wrote:i love listening to the leaked pj song "last word".
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Right?! Oh man. Just when I didn't think Education could get better than that rough mix/demo.bodysnatcher wrote:Just listened to "Education" demo. That song has Jack Irons written all over it. Would love to have heard a version with himdurdencommatyler wrote:Yeah, all it's missing is the cool bridge.WtOB? wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Yes.WtOB? wrote:Forgot about this vercsh. It has Krusen's playing but also better lyrics?Birds in Hell wrote:I prefer Krusen's playing too. The unreleased version from the Ten sessions (available unofficially on that "Rarities and Unreleased Cuts" working disc) is the definitive version, as far as I'm concerned. Much better than the later recording on the Go single (though I do like Ed's new vocal melody in the bridge on that one.)WtOB? wrote:I prefer the LD Alone and always have because I prefer Dave Krusen's drumming.
Everything on that Rarities sampler is better. Brother, Alone, Just A Girl, and especially Education. I should listen to that stuff more often.
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Oh I think he does too, but it's just a different feel. It's kind of like how Matt handles In My Tree and Who You Are just fine tooWtOB? wrote:I think Matt handles it just fine.bodysnatcher wrote:Just listened to "Education" demo. That song has Jack Irons written all over it. Would love to have heard a version with himdurdencommatyler wrote:Yeah, all it's missing is the cool bridge.WtOB? wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Yes.WtOB? wrote:Forgot about this vercsh. It has Krusen's playing but also better lyrics?Birds in Hell wrote:I prefer Krusen's playing too. The unreleased version from the Ten sessions (available unofficially on that "Rarities and Unreleased Cuts" working disc) is the definitive version, as far as I'm concerned. Much better than the later recording on the Go single (though I do like Ed's new vocal melody in the bridge on that one.)WtOB? wrote:I prefer the LD Alone and always have because I prefer Dave Krusen's drumming.
Everything on that Rarities sampler is better. Brother, Alone, Just A Girl, and especially Education. I should listen to that stuff more often.
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I feel ya, bro. I actually prefer the way Matt played In My Tree in 2000, rather than how he plays it now when he tries to be Jack Irons. I'd love to hear how he played Who You Are in '98 when they soundchecked it.bodysnatcher wrote:Oh I think he does too, but it's just a different feel. It's kind of like how Matt handles In My Tree and Who You Are just fine tooWtOB? wrote:I think Matt handles it just fine.bodysnatcher wrote:Just listened to "Education" demo. That song has Jack Irons written all over it. Would love to have heard a version with himdurdencommatyler wrote:Yeah, all it's missing is the cool bridge.WtOB? wrote:Birds in Hell wrote:Yes.WtOB? wrote:Forgot about this vercsh. It has Krusen's playing but also better lyrics?Birds in Hell wrote:I prefer Krusen's playing too. The unreleased version from the Ten sessions (available unofficially on that "Rarities and Unreleased Cuts" working disc) is the definitive version, as far as I'm concerned. Much better than the later recording on the Go single (though I do like Ed's new vocal melody in the bridge on that one.)WtOB? wrote:I prefer the LD Alone and always have because I prefer Dave Krusen's drumming.
Everything on that Rarities sampler is better. Brother, Alone, Just A Girl, and especially Education. I should listen to that stuff more often.
Dev wrote:i love listening to the leaked pj song "last word".
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I gotta say, after listening to both versions just now, I think I prefer the LD version of "Alone". Like, by a good margin. It's noiser, messier, a little more experimental. Eddie's aged, somber vocals give the song a different dimension and meaning. It makes going back to the hyper-earnest-angry-young-man original kind of embarrassing by comparison.
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so much filler on this album
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Yes indeed
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I hate "Leavin Here"
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There's actually three finished studio versions of Alone and the unreleased one is my favourite.LoathedVermin72 wrote:I gotta say, after listening to both versions just now, I think I prefer the LD version of "Alone". Like, by a good margin. It's noiser, messier, a little more experimental. Eddie's aged, somber vocals give the song a different dimension and meaning. It makes going back to the hyper-earnest-angry-young-man original kind of embarrassing by comparison.
v1: 1991 studio version with Dave Krusen, recorded during the Ten sessions (unreleased)
v2: 1992 studio version with Dave Abbruzzese, recorded during the same sessions as State of Love and Trust, new Even Flow, etc. (released on the Go single)
v3: 1991/2003 hybrid version, the 1991 track with 2003 vocals by Ed (released on Lost Dogs)
That first version surfaced on the "Rarities and Unreleased Cuts" internal Sony disc and is dead-on perfect to me.
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I hate "Gremmie out of Control"
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Oh wow, so all the music on the LD cut is from the original 1991 version? Interesting.Birds in Hell wrote:There's actually three finished studio versions of Alone and the unreleased one is my favourite.LoathedVermin72 wrote:I gotta say, after listening to both versions just now, I think I prefer the LD version of "Alone". Like, by a good margin. It's noiser, messier, a little more experimental. Eddie's aged, somber vocals give the song a different dimension and meaning. It makes going back to the hyper-earnest-angry-young-man original kind of embarrassing by comparison.
v1: 1991 studio version with Dave Krusen, recorded during the Ten sessions (unreleased)
v2: 1992 studio version with Dave Abbruzzese, recorded during the same sessions as State of Love and Trust, new Even Flow, etc. (released on the Go single)
v3: 1991/2003 hybrid version, the 1991 track with 2003 vocals by Ed (released on Lost Dogs)
That first version surfaced on the "Rarities and Unreleased Cuts" internal Sony disc and is dead-on perfect to me.
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"Whale Song" isn't bad