Division 1 Round 4al: Black vs. Porch

Post by **stip** » Wed March 04, 2015 1:35 pm

Post by **Jorge** » Wed March 04, 2015 1:36 pm

The final chorus in "Porch" is really cool but I don't care about the jam section and I've always felt like it needs another verse. "Black" feels like the more complete song, so I am voting for it.

Post by **stip** » Wed March 04, 2015 1:38 pm

Vote for Porch, which is top 5, though Black is still absurdly good.

Post by **stip** » Wed March 04, 2015 1:38 pm

the transition out of the jam into the final chorus and outro is quite possibly the second best extended sequence in the entire catalog.

tommymtcom · Post by **tommymtcom** » Wed March 04, 2015 1:39 pm

What is your top 5, Stip? I feel like you've called more than 5 songs 'top 5' during this tournament.

Post by **stip** » Wed March 04, 2015 1:40 pm

Alive
Corduroy
Porch
Last Exit
World Wide Suicide

Post by **stip** » Wed March 04, 2015 1:41 pm

DTE, Yellow Ledbetter, Life Wasted, Small Town, and Immortality probably round out my top 10. Comatose used to be in my top 5 but it's dropped down to my top 20.

Kevin Davis · Post by **Kevin Davis** » Wed March 04, 2015 2:24 pm

My feelings pretty much match Jorge's, though I think some of the live versions of "Porch" from 1995-2000 have given rise to some of the best improvisational playing of the band's career. No shame in factoring that in, but my vote still goes to "Black," even though I've despised those "doo-doo-doo"s at the end since I was 11 years old.

Post by B » Wed March 04, 2015 2:47 pm

I gotta go with Porch. Black didn't hold up once the 90s ended, IMHO.

PHATJ · Post by **PHATJ** » Wed March 04, 2015 4:02 pm

Black. It's a transcendent song.

William Bloke · Post by **William Bloke** » Wed March 04, 2015 5:01 pm

Kevin Davis wrote:My feelings pretty much match Jorge's, though I think some of the live versions of "Porch" from 1995-2000 have given rise to some of the best improvisational playing of the band's career. No shame in factoring that in, but my vote still goes to "Black," even though I've despised those "doo-doo-doo"s at the end since I was 11 years old.

At PJ in 2006 with a mate and everyone was "doo-dooing" at the end, myself included. He looks at me deadpan and says "You sound like a fucking dove". I lost my shit.

That's all I can hear now.

Vote for Porch btw.

E.H. Ruddock · Post by **E.H. Ruddock** » Thu March 05, 2015 12:23 am

This poll is pissing me off

LetMeSleep · Post by **LetMeSleep** » Thu March 05, 2015 1:46 am

theplatypus wrote:The final chorus in "Porch" is really cool but I don't care about the jam section and I've always felt like it needs another verse. "Black" feels like the more complete song, so I am voting for it.

I read this on my mobile and thought it was Stip. It made sense.

I concur Mr Plat except for the jam section. That rocks. Black but I haven't sought out either for years.

Birds in Hell · Post by **Birds in Hell** » Thu March 05, 2015 2:35 am

Porch, for sure.

E.H. Ruddock · Post by **E.H. Ruddock** » Thu March 05, 2015 3:52 am

Birds in Hell wrote:Porch, for sure.

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