No Code / Merkinball -- Rewriting History

[dimejinky99]

It could be said Habit, Lukin and Mankind don't fit the mood either. We accept them cos that's how it came. I'd say the fort two probably go more with Vitalogy.
But who knows?

[VinylGuy]

im listening to Merkinball/No Code back to back today.

[dimejinky99]

Comeback to us with your thoughts.

[EJ]

And hasn't jeff said he almost quit the band during the no code sessions? That hardly sounds cathartic

From Spin 10 Past 10 article:

AMENT: No Code, I wasn't super involved with that record on any level. I found out three days into the session that they were actually recording. I'd worked really hard, demoed up a bunch of stuff, and luckily at that point I was working on the Three Fish record. If I wouldn't have had Three Fish at that point, it probably would have broke the camel's back.

http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/art ... n801.shtml

[Strat]

And hasn't jeff said he almost quit the band during the no code sessions? That hardly sounds cathartic

From Spin 10 Past 10 article:

AMENT: No Code, I wasn't super involved with that record on any level. I found out three days into the session that they were actually recording. I'd worked really hard, demoed up a bunch of stuff, and luckily at that point I was working on the Three Fish record. If I wouldn't have had Three Fish at that point, it probably would have broke the camel's back.

http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/art ... n801.shtml

Why this sort of stuff was never touched on in the Movie, Ill never understand. I think he has also stated he tossed his bass against the wall in anger too...

[dimejinky99]

He says that, or something similar in the Pj20 book too doesn't he?

So they nearly lost Jeff cos nobody called him. Is that what they do with ed now? Just let's all gather and play, and leave that diva at home

[EJ]

And hasn't jeff said he almost quit the band during the no code sessions? That hardly sounds cathartic

From Spin 10 Past 10 article:

AMENT: No Code, I wasn't super involved with that record on any level. I found out three days into the session that they were actually recording. I'd worked really hard, demoed up a bunch of stuff, and luckily at that point I was working on the Three Fish record. If I wouldn't have had Three Fish at that point, it probably would have broke the camel's back.

http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/art ... n801.shtml

Why this sort of stuff was never touched on in the Movie, Ill never understand. I think he has also stated he tossed his bass against the wall in anger too...

Yeah, I think some of Jeff's tension was written about in the 5 Against 1 book. And, I agree with you, the movie was a complete failure on a biopic level.

[EJ]

He says that, or something similar in the Pj20 book too doesn't he?

So they nearly lost Jeff cos nobody called him. Is that what they do with ed now? Just let's all gather and play, and leave that diva at home

Well, Jeff gave up laying around on his couch waiting for the guys to call him to work on the 10th album. So, he worked on his second solo album, and 2 albums with RNDM.

[red calzolaio]

I can't see either song on Merkinball on No Code. The mood of each song is so much different than anything on that album.

yea this.

No Code my second first favorite album and i love both Long Road and I Got Shit. just wouldn't work for me though.

[VinylGuy]

And hasn't jeff said he almost quit the band during the no code sessions? That hardly sounds cathartic

From Spin 10 Past 10 article:

AMENT: No Code, I wasn't super involved with that record on any level. I found out three days into the session that they were actually recording. I'd worked really hard, demoed up a bunch of stuff, and luckily at that point I was working on the Three Fish record. If I wouldn't have had Three Fish at that point, it probably would have broke the camel's back.

http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/art ... n801.shtml

Why this sort of stuff was never touched on in the Movie, Ill never understand. I think he has also stated he tossed his bass against the wall in anger too...

in the book its kinda covered....Jeff saying something about not knowing they were recording and his contribution being smaller than before. Its weird, its one of my favorite album from the band, and specially from Jeff.
The Three Fish/RNDM parallel is a good one....with Jeff saying all sort of things on the press about the band not doing studio work.

[WtOB?]

And hasn't jeff said he almost quit the band during the no code sessions? That hardly sounds cathartic

From Spin 10 Past 10 article:

AMENT: No Code, I wasn't super involved with that record on any level. I found out three days into the session that they were actually recording. I'd worked really hard, demoed up a bunch of stuff, and luckily at that point I was working on the Three Fish record. If I wouldn't have had Three Fish at that point, it probably would have broke the camel's back.

http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/art ... n801.shtml

So guys, how are Three Fish? I don't like Brad but love Bayleaf. I still think Wellwater Conspiracy is the best side project related to this band. Should I check out their records?

[Lament]

So guys, how are Three Fish? I don't like Brad but love Bayleaf. I still think Wellwater Conspiracy is the best side project related to this band. Should I check out their records?

They were always my favorite side project, but I have pretty questionable taste. The self-titled album is much better than The Quiet Table. They were a stellar live band though. They don't seem to sound as out there today as they did back then, but there's a neat middle-eastern vibe kinda going on.

[WtOB?]

So guys, how are Three Fish? I don't like Brad but love Bayleaf. I still think Wellwater Conspiracy is the best side project related to this band. Should I check out their records?

They were always my favorite side project, but I have pretty questionable taste. The self-titled album is much better than The Quiet Table. They were a stellar live band though. They don't seem to sound as out there today as they did back then, but there's a neat middle-eastern vibe kinda going on.

That sounds pretty cool. I'll give S/T a listen.

[Lament]

That sounds pretty cool. I'll give S/T a listen.

Laced and Song For A Dead Girl were the singles, and Stone appears on Stranger In My Head if I remember correctly. It's the kinda album that could've only been made in 1996, when the idea of middle-eastern grunge seemed credible.

[WtOB?]

That sounds pretty cool. I'll give S/T a listen.

Laced and Song For A Dead Girl were the singles, and Stone appears on Stranger In My Head if I remember correctly. It's the kinda album that could've only been made in 1996, when the idea of middle-eastern grunge seemed credible.

I am a big fan of Tuatara's Breaking The Ethers album, which is from around that time, if that helps ??

[Lament]

I am a big fan of Tuatara's Breaking The Ethers album, which is from around that time, if that helps ??

Three Fish is much more conventional, but knowing that I'd say Three Fish is definitely worth a listen for you.

[WtOB?]

I am a big fan of Tuatara's Breaking The Ethers album, which is from around that time, if that helps ??

Three Fish is much more conventional, but knowing that I'd say Three Fish is definitely worth a listen for you.

[red calzolaio]

take it elsewhere you spin off lovers.

[Lament]

Also, they made this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_4s2vbeYTc

Which, I don't even know where to begin, but...yeah. That happened once.

EDIT: Actually, this one might be even more amazing. Jeff playing bass in the sand in front of the Pyramids for some camels. I miss 1996.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3-KS03cVJU

[verb_to_trust]

And hasn't jeff said he almost quit the band during the no code sessions? That hardly sounds cathartic

From Spin 10 Past 10 article:

AMENT: No Code, I wasn't super involved with that record on any level. I found out three days into the session that they were actually recording. I'd worked really hard, demoed up a bunch of stuff, and luckily at that point I was working on the Three Fish record. If I wouldn't have had Three Fish at that point, it probably would have broke the camel's back.

http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/art ... n801.shtml

Why this sort of stuff was never touched on in the Movie, Ill never understand. I think he has also stated he tossed his bass against the wall in anger too...

Didn't he also dunk a basketball until his hands bled after Stone decided he was 'over' Brother?