Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

[matt reeder]

Im watching metro 94 for the fifth time this week...god they were fuckin good.
billy was doing everything the other alt rockers like cobain hated at the time.

The new lineup is really really tight. Its weird to see this songs being played with brad wilk or that the bass player is a dude; but they own the material and seem to be having fun; hell billy was smiling and joking all night.

He even brought the band back for an encore with zero.

You should check out the night before on archive - it's an even better show than the DVD.

If you love this era and can stomach average-at-best audience recordings, you should check out some of the shows from early 1994. This was the second live peak the band hit (the first was early 1992, the third was mid-1996), and some of the shows are absolutely incredible. Particularly recommended are the following shows:

February 25, 1994 - London, UK
March 23, 1994 - Normal, IL, USA
March 25, 1994 - Davenport, IA, USA
April 08, 1994 - Biloxi, MS, USA
April 10, 1994 - Columbia, SC, USA
April 17, 1994 - Buffalo, NY, USA

All of those shows are absolutely astonishing. Between those shows, you get all of Siamese Dream, almost all of Gish, some of Pisces Iscariot, a couple of early versions of "Bullet With Butterfly Wings", some covers and about 50 of the greatest BC guitar solos. Oh, and speaking of which: his solo on "Starla" at the London show above might be the single greatest thing he ever did.

Oh, and this just surfaced: it's not the strongest show of the tour but it's a pretty good shot of the band at this juncture. Great stuff:



I miss this band.

[Rangi Guy]

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... y-20150325

[Kevin Davis]

I don't have a lot of "concert regrets," but missing that show is one of them. I must have gotten into the Pumpkins no more than a month prior to that show happening. Some kid in one of the older grades at school told me about it the day after it happened. I was 12, so the likelihood of my parents letting me go (or me having the money to go) would have been up for debate, but still -- I saw a lot of awful bands at the Madison, I can't imagine what it would have been like to see the Pumpkins there in their prime. I saw them a year later at Assembly Hall in Champaign -- one short year and they'd left Madison-sized venues well in their dust....

You mean, this show: https://archive.org/details/tsp1996-10-25

I know like 10 people who were at that show but I was living in Oregon at the time. Bah. One of my concert regrets was when they came through Portland on this tour. Had I liked the Pumpkins at the time I would have gone, and it would have been amazing.

Yep, that's the show -- I used to have a bootleg VHS of it, as well as another show in Moline where someone hit D'Arcy in the head with a shoe.

Their music has held up so well -- one of the rare occasions when you say something is "of its time" and mean it as a compliment.

[VinylGuy]

Watching their storytellers.

[BigRedLedbetter]

Here's an old favorite: https://archive.org/details/tsp1995-10-19.flac16
============================================================
SMASHING PUMPKINS
October 19, 1995
Madison Theater
Peoria, IL, USA

Source: ANA-M>CDR2>WAV[EAC]>FLAC [8]>you
Equipment: unknown analog audience [probably a Sony D-3, but I honestly cannot remember]
Transfer: transferred using an unknown standalone device
Quality: 8.0
Time:

disc one:
1. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
2. Jellybelly
3. Zero
4. Today
5. Disarm
6. Fuck You (An Ode to No One)
7. Rocket
8. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
9. Bullet With Butterfly Wings
10. Hummer
11. Geek U.S.A.
12. Cherub Rock
13. encore break
14. Mayonaise
15. X.Y.U.

disc two:
1. Muzzle
2. Siva
========================================================
As a Central Illinois native I'm very partial to this show, but man...such a good show. This is the first appearance BC made in public after shaving his head, they play a bunch of new songs and nail them all, and "Hummer" (second-to-last performance ever, or at least before they broke up) absolutely SLAYS.

Thanks for this. Have never heard of them opening with Porcelina.

I have all of those audience boots and the sound is pretty good. I love the one on 2-9-96 at the Moore. Their gear didn't show up so they used some AIC gear. Billy poked fun at EV IIRC.

The Metro show on the SD reissue is beastly. First time I watched it I teared up when Billy introduces his brother and plays Spaceboy.

To Forgive, In the Arms of Sleep and By Starlight all came up on a playlist earlier.

[contamination]

I was watching Wayne's World the other day and heard this song in the diner scene, and was thinking "Why don't I recognize this Pumpkins song, it's obviously Billy":

[hbk]

That live version of The End is The Beginning Is The End is amazing.

If Jimmy was around during the Adore era...I can't imagine how good they would have sounded.

This drummer wasn't bad though.

[VinylGuy]

Watching rock am ring 2007. This was a very solid line up.

[zeb]

Saw their performance on some recent talk show the other night. I feel very disconnected from this band.

Pumpkins 92-96 or GTFO.

[matt reeder]

Saw their performance on some recent talk show the other night. I feel very disconnected from this band.

Pumpkins 92-96 or GTFO.

Did you say disconnected?

[AndySlash]

Watching rock am ring 2007. This was a very solid line up.

is that the one with uli jon roth playing on gossamer? i enjoyed that performance.

[VinylGuy]

Watching rock am ring 2007. This was a very solid line up.

is that the one with uli jon roth playing on gossamer? i enjoyed that performance.

yeah that one....its a pretty great show.

Man, Billy was so thin back then...

[zeb]

Saw their performance on some recent talk show the other night. I feel very disconnected from this band.

Pumpkins 92-96 or GTFO.

Did you say disconnected?

Now THAT is a wonderful, compelling song. Top five Pumpkins tune, in my mind.

[matt reeder]

I've talked about this before and I don't care. If you love Smashing Pumpkins, this show is where it's at: https://archive.org/details/tsp1997-01-08.flac16

Smashing Pumpkins Live at GM Place on 1997-01-08
DISC I
01. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
02. Tonight, Tonight
03. Cherub Rock
04. Where Boys Fear to Tread
05. Rhinoceros
06. Zero
07. Fuck You
08. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans -> Rocket
09. Thirty Three
10. 1979
11. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
12. Muzzle
13. Disarm
14. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
15. Banter

DISC II
01. X.Y.U.
02. By Starlight
03. Siva
04. The Aeroplane Flies High
05. Silverfuck

Collection SmashingPumpkins
Band/Artist Smashing Pumpkins
Date January 8, 1997
Venue GM Place
Location Vancouver, BC; Canada

Source FM > DAT > ? > CD
Lineage CD Commercial Bootleg (GM Place) > EAC > WAV > FLAC
Taped by Unknown
Transferred by Unknown

Despite being Jimmy Chamberlin-less (this is after Jimmy was fired, and Matt Walker is playing drums), this might be the single greatest Smashing Pumpkins show out there. Great versions of every song, the band is ridiculously tight and Billy tears his voice a new one. I'm amazed he was able to talk after this show, since he unleashes about three dozen hellish screams in this show.

Oh, and for the uninitiated: "Silverfuck" does not even remotely resemble the version on Siamese Dream. The lyrics are based on the album version, but the music is mostly different and the song runs on for about 25 minutes. Some of the extended versions from this tour drag, but this one is tight and focused, ebbing and flowing until everything explodes.

Basically, if you are just downloading one show from the Mellon Collie era, it should be this one.

[AndySlash]

03. Siva
04. The Aeroplane Flies High
05. Silverfuck

god this run gives me a chubby

[Iholdthepain]

I saw them in Dallas a month earlier... You're right about the Silverfuck comment... and right after The Aeroplane Flies High, that psychedelic final encore took everyone by surprise... the house lights came up and fans were streaming out when they came back on. It became a mad rush back to seats and I ended up right in front of Billy for the whole 45+ minute jam session. I have a recording of it on CD-R, and it's a pretty damn great audience recording. Seen the Pumpkins 6x and this was by far the best era I witnessed!

Thanks for the link

[Birds in Hell]

I've never really dipped my toe into Pumpkins live recordings but I'll give this a shot.

[matt reeder]

03. Siva
04. The Aeroplane Flies High
05. Silverfuck

god this run gives me a chubby

Just before that is the best version of "By Starlight" ever.

[BigRedLedbetter]

Anyone interested in doing a SP song tournament?

03. Siva
04. The Aeroplane Flies High
05. Silverfuck

god this run gives me a chubby

Just before that is the best version of "By Starlight" ever.

I love By Starlight!!

[Iholdthepain]

Anyone interested in doing a SP song tournament?