The Wire

Post by **The Argonaut** » Mon March 23, 2015 2:02 am

Maybe the only thing I don't like about Season 4: the academic social worker working with Colvin can't speak English. It begins with Colvin not being able to speak his academic language, then becomes the social worker can't speak street lingo, and eventually just becomes the social worker not being able to understand English spoken by anyone other than Colvin. ex:

Colvin and the social worker get the OK from the Principal to start their special class.
Asst Principal: You have to protect him. He is a good man who just went out on a limb for you. And this district knows how to yield a chainsaw.
Colvin laughs.
Social Worker: Excuse me?
Colvin: If anything goes wrong, it comes down on him.

Why the hell didn't he understand that?

numbers · Post by **numbers** » Mon March 23, 2015 5:09 pm

Season 4

1- Michael
2- Norman
3- Colvin
4- Carver
5- Dukie

Post by **The Argonaut** » Mon April 13, 2015 2:46 am

Season 4 top five characters:

1. Michael
2. Carver
3. Bubbles
4. Chris Partlow
5. Carcetti

leaving Snoop, Randy, Colvin, Norman, and even Namond off this list is hard. Namond is a much better character the second time around.

Kaius · Post by **Kaius** » Tue April 28, 2015 3:19 pm

Dev wrote:Boone??

lol

bada · Post by **bada** » Tue April 28, 2015 8:44 pm

Started this today. Watched the first two episodes. I don't feel like I'm watching the greatest show ever but I like it enough to keep watching.

Kaius · Post by **Kaius** » Tue April 28, 2015 9:09 pm

It gets really good, Bada. I just finished season 3 and all 3 seasons rank towards the top of the list for any show I've seen.

Evvo · Post by **Evvo** » Wed April 29, 2015 10:09 am

Kaius wrote:It gets really good, Bada. I just finished season 3 and all 3 seasons rank towards the top of the list for any show I've seen.

You've got it all to come with season 4. I think it is the best season of any show I've seen, truly incredible.

darth_vedder · Post by **darth_vedder** » Wed April 29, 2015 1:21 pm

bada wrote:Started this today. Watched the first two episodes. I don't feel like I'm watching the greatest show ever but I like it enough to keep watching.

Stick with it, trust us here in this thread. It's well worth it.

The first time I watched the series, I really struggled with the first few episodes. I was like "uh, what is all the fuss about?". After a few episodes, there is a payoff. Then is slows back down, and builds up to another payoff, and so forth and so on. The whole of the series is greater than individual episodes. Once you get past Season 3, you'll see how special it is. Then, as mentioned, Season 4 comes along, which is just superb.

bada · Post by **bada** » Wed April 29, 2015 6:37 pm

darth_vedder wrote:
bada wrote:Started this today. Watched the first two episodes. I don't feel like I'm watching the greatest show ever but I like it enough to keep watching.
Stick with it, trust us here in this thread. It's well worth it.

The first time I watched the series, I really struggled with the first few episodes. I was like "uh, what is all the fuss about?". After a few episodes, there is a payoff. Then is slows back down, and builds up to another payoff, and so forth and so on. The whole of the series is greater than individual episodes. Once you get past Season 3, you'll see how special it is. Then, as mentioned, Season 4 comes along, which is just superb.

I'm sticking with for sure. The scene in episode 4 where they recreate a shooting in an apt and all the say is "fuck" over and over hooked me. Plus now I'm starting to like the characters instead of just trying to remember which other show I recognize the actors from. The entire cast is filled with "oh I know that guy...." I'm all in.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Wed April 29, 2015 7:12 pm

If you don't enjoy season two please don't give up on it. Season three will make it all worth while.

bada · Post by **bada** » Tue May 05, 2015 3:59 pm

Just finished Season 2....with the exception of Ziggy I enjoyed it. He has to be the worst crime fiction classic fuck up cliche I couldn't take him.

numbers · Post by **numbers** » Tue May 05, 2015 4:10 pm

I've started watching from the beginning again. IT'S SO GOOD.

@SkitchP · Post by **@SkitchP** » Tue May 05, 2015 4:14 pm

I didn't love Ziggy, and my first time through I didn't care for him at all. But each viewing I've started to realize his importance. He's the anti-stringer, avon, prop joe, marlo, etc. Those men were criminals. Smart, calculating criminals.

Ziggy is the people that are drawn in by the perceived glamour of the criminal life, and are totally incapable of succeeding in it. The guys that aren't "hard" enough to make it, the cowards. I think people hate Ziggy because he is what nearly anyone of us would be if we decided to try and be criminals, and in that respect he's not a cliche- he's a pretty accurate representation. Ziggy is season 1 Tim Bayliss.

numbers · Post by **numbers** » Tue May 05, 2015 4:25 pm

@SkitchP wrote:I didn't love Ziggy, and my first time through I didn't care for him at all. But each viewing I've started to realize his importance. He's the anti-stringer, avon, prop joe, marlo, etc. Those men were criminals. Smart, calculating criminals.

Ziggy is the people that are drawn in by the perceived glamour of the criminal life, and are totally incapable of succeeding in it. The guys that aren't "hard" enough to make it, the cowards. I think people hate Ziggy because he is what nearly anyone of us would be if we decided to try and be criminals, and in that respect he's not a cliche- he's a pretty accurate representation. Ziggy is season 1 Tim Bayliss.

Wouldnt Wallace have also been that character, just better?

numbers · Post by **numbers** » Tue May 05, 2015 4:26 pm

BTW, I had no problem with Ziggy. Not my favorite by any stretch, but he didnt bother me.

Simple Torture · Post by **Simple Torture** » Tue May 05, 2015 4:40 pm

numbers wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:I didn't love Ziggy, and my first time through I didn't care for him at all. But each viewing I've started to realize his importance. He's the anti-stringer, avon, prop joe, marlo, etc. Those men were criminals. Smart, calculating criminals.

Ziggy is the people that are drawn in by the perceived glamour of the criminal life, and are totally incapable of succeeding in it. The guys that aren't "hard" enough to make it, the cowards. I think people hate Ziggy because he is what nearly anyone of us would be if we decided to try and be criminals, and in that respect he's not a cliche- he's a pretty accurate representation. Ziggy is season 1 Tim Bayliss.
Wouldnt Wallace have also been that character, just better?

What about White Mike?

numbers · Post by **numbers** » Tue May 05, 2015 4:47 pm

Simple Torture wrote:
numbers wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:I didn't love Ziggy, and my first time through I didn't care for him at all. But each viewing I've started to realize his importance. He's the anti-stringer, avon, prop joe, marlo, etc. Those men were criminals. Smart, calculating criminals.

Ziggy is the people that are drawn in by the perceived glamour of the criminal life, and are totally incapable of succeeding in it. The guys that aren't "hard" enough to make it, the cowards. I think people hate Ziggy because he is what nearly anyone of us would be if we decided to try and be criminals, and in that respect he's not a cliche- he's a pretty accurate representation. Ziggy is season 1 Tim Bayliss.
Wouldnt Wallace have also been that character, just better?
What about White Mike?

White Mike knew how to take care of #1, he was no fool.

bada · Post by **bada** » Thu May 07, 2015 1:57 pm

@SkitchP wrote:I didn't love Ziggy, and my first time through I didn't care for him at all. But each viewing I've started to realize his importance. He's the anti-stringer, avon, prop joe, marlo, etc. Those men were criminals. Smart, calculating criminals.

Ziggy is the people that are drawn in by the perceived glamour of the criminal life, and are totally incapable of succeeding in it. The guys that aren't "hard" enough to make it, the cowards. I think people hate Ziggy because he is what nearly anyone of us would be if we decided to try and be criminals, and in that respect he's not a cliche- he's a pretty accurate representation. Ziggy is season 1 Tim Bayliss.

By cliche I meant he is character type that is very prevalent in crime fiction except he seemed to be turned up to 100.

Kaius · Post by **Kaius** » Thu May 07, 2015 2:18 pm

But a drinking duck. C'mon!

bada · Post by **bada** » Thu May 07, 2015 2:20 pm

That duck

Spoiler: show: died

Kaius.

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