HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

[spike]

You think the Unsullied are good?

are the sons of the harpy the unsullied? i thought they were former slaves.

I just meant the Unsullied were fighting against the Sons of the Harpy, but it was a struggle. Barristan came in there and just went to town like it was nothing (for a while at least).

barristan's got balls

[Simple Torture]

You think the Unsullied are good?

are the sons of the harpy the unsullied? i thought they were former slaves.

I just meant the Unsullied were fighting against the Sons of the Harpy, but it was a struggle. Barristan came in there and just went to town like it was nothing (for a while at least).

barristan's got balls

Grey Worm doesn't.

[E.H. Ruddock]

[Norah]

You think the Unsullied are good?

are the sons of the harpy the unsullied? i thought they were former slaves.

I just meant the Unsullied were fighting against the Sons of the Harpy, but it was a struggle. Barristan came in there and just went to town like it was nothing (for a while at least).

The unsullied are among the best fighters in the world in open field combat. They're pretty mediocre in close combat urban fighting.

Barristan was much better suited for that fight.

[Mecca]

yeah, they were masters with a spear, but a spear sucks in close quarters

[E.H. Ruddock]

The unsullied are among the best fighters in the world in open field combat. They're pretty mediocre in close combat urban fighting.

I, I don't, uh

[spike]

You think the Unsullied are good?

are the sons of the harpy the unsullied? i thought they were former slaves.

I just meant the Unsullied were fighting against the Sons of the Harpy, but it was a struggle. Barristan came in there and just went to town like it was nothing (for a while at least).

barristan's got balls

Grey Worm doesn't.

thanks for explaining the joke, chud.

[Norah]

The unsullied are among the best fighters in the world in open field combat. They're pretty mediocre in close combat urban fighting.

I, I don't, uh

What, Ruddo?

[Mecca]

for Ruddo, those things aren't mutually exclusive; he's the Ser Barristan of the mods.

[The Argonaut]

I don't mean to knock the Unsullied. I'm just saying that Barristan is (was) a badass.

[Norah]

for sure

[15showsandcounting]

The leaks ended with episode 4, no?

[epilogue]

I think so, yes.

[spike]

hey nerds, if stannis legitimizes jon snow as a stark, does that weaken his claim to the throne as a targaryen?

[DeLima]

Good ep. Now that they've broken their no flashback vow it would have been kind of cool to see the Rhaegar-Lyanna scene discussed in the ep, but oh well.

[Mecca]

hey nerds, if stannis legitimizes jon snow as a stark, does that weaken his claim to the throne as a targaryen?

probably not, cuz he'd be Jon Stark

[spike]

hey nerds, if stannis legitimizes jon snow as a stark, does that weaken his claim to the throne as a targaryen?

probably not, cuz he'd be Jon Stark

right, but wouldn't the son of the eldest son of the mad king have more claim than a stark?

[E.H. Ruddock]

hey nerds, if stannis legitimizes jon snow as a stark, does that weaken his claim to the throne as a targaryen?

probably not, cuz he'd be Jon Stark

right, but wouldn't the son of the eldest son of the mad king have more claim than a stark?

not if winter is coming

[Mecca]

hey nerds, if stannis legitimizes jon snow as a stark, does that weaken his claim to the throne as a targaryen?

probably not, cuz he'd be Jon Stark

right, but wouldn't the son of the eldest son of the mad king have more claim than a stark?

the explanation I have goes too much into book reader theory to post in the show thread, so I'll spoiler tag it and try to keep it least spoilery

Spoiler: show

Jon is very likely a Targ, but the circumstances of his birth aren't very well known. He's a bastard in many people's eyes no matter which way you cut it because Rhaegar was already married to Elia Martell, even if Valyrians practiced polygamy. Even is he has a Targ father, Stannis is only legally legitimizing him as Stark if he did take the deal, so his claim as a Targ would only be as a bastard. A legitimate son of a Targaryean would have a better claim than a bastard. Either way, if a claim is disputed, it pretty much comes to war and whoever wins gets the claim. I doubt Jon would want war over something he probably never wanted, whereas being a Stark was always his desire

[spike]

hey nerds, if stannis legitimizes jon snow as a stark, does that weaken his claim to the throne as a targaryen?

probably not, cuz he'd be Jon Stark

right, but wouldn't the son of the eldest son of the mad king have more claim than a stark?

the explanation I have goes too much into book reader theory to post in the show thread, so I'll spoiler tag it and try to keep it least spoilery

Spoiler: show

Jon is very likely a Targ, but the circumstances of his birth aren't very well known. He's a bastard in many people's eyes no matter which way you cut it because Rhaegar was already married to Elia Martell, even if Valyrians practiced polygamy. Even is he has a Targ father, Stannis is only legally legitimizing him as Stark if he did take the deal, so his claim as a Targ would only be as a bastard. A legitimate son of a Targaryean would have a better claim than a bastard. Either way, if a claim is disputed, it pretty much comes to war and whoever wins gets the claim. I doubt Jon would want war over something he probably never wanted, whereas being a Stark was always his desire

Spoiler: show

good point. if jon was legitimized as either, it doesn't seem his character would be motivated to rule all of westeros anyway.