I Feel Stupid And Contagious / A Nirvana Thread

[bada]

Also, I've never met a single person that likes Heavier Than Heaven, except Courtney fucking Love. Isn't it pretty universally regarded as pandering garbage?

I've never read it.

I read it when I was 18-19, dct -- I didn't really think to question much of it, I just remember thinking that he presumed an awareness of detail when describing certain things that he couldn't possibly possess. There was another part where he described Kurt losing his virginity, and he talked about how Kurt walked around the next day sniffing his fingertips to smell the girl's "essence" or something like that. What possible source would he have for something like that, and who the hell cares?

Honestly, musician bios in general don't really hold my interest, at least not beyond the parts that deal directly with the music and the creative process. I read a wonderful -- and, from what I can tell, exhaustively researched -- Thelonious Monk biography last summer, and even then I found myself glossing over the parts about his family's financial problems and his kids' birthdays and perking up when he'd get into the studio with Sonny Rollins and start jamming, or when he'd sit down at his piano and start noodling around with a melody that would eventually become "Straight, No Chaser." For as much as common biographical details might illuminate one's understanding of the art itself (though I'll admit that, for me, they rarely do), when told objectively they often just come off as dry, boring facts (and, as we've established, when embellished upon for effect, they feel exploitative if not altogether made up). My sole point of contact with these people is their music, and ultimately that's the subject that engages me.

I was thinking not long ago (on a day when I listened to "Bleach" and found myself for the first time really loving every track) that my appreciation for Nirvana is really at an all-time high right now; I loved them more intensely as a teenager, but there were also whole elements of their musical range that I just didn't "get." I think they've gone well past the bottom of the barrel with the archival stuff, but I wouldn't change a note of their core catalog -- the albums, the B-sides, pretty much everything not on "With the Lights Out" or the reissues. It's soul food for me at this point -- I love it all. How much of this movie would those who've seen it say is music-focused, and how much of it is details about his drug use, his marriage, etc?

Theres really nothing about his creative process in there. No songwriting or recording stuff. All personal.

[BurtReynolds]

yeah almost nothing about the music. Maybe there isn't much to tell. It seems like he just watched a lot of TV while practicing power chords.

[epilogue]

I was only able to get through the first hour and a half of the thing before the wife came home from work and I shut it off to catch up with her. There were some interesting parts, for sure. And I'm looking forward to finishing the thing up. But I'm not sure this is the end all/be all doc that was "promised."

My heart really does go out to him all over again, though. I can't imagine. And hearing the songs, seeing them perform live, which I never got to do, hearing the alternate takes, seeing how Krist and Dave learn to behave around Kurt... there are some really blistering, fascinating and aching moments.

But overall, through the bit I've seen, I found myself, on the balance, a tad underwhelmed. Those glimpses inside -- especially the interviews with Kurts stepmom and Krist -- are fantastic and genuinely moving. I kinda wish there was less animation and home video and more straight up interviews.

Thankfully, I've only seen Courtney interviewed twice so far. And both times I wanted to throw up. That woman has absolutely zero clue. She still lives in her own world and has very little touch with reality. I'm sure there's plenty more of her but blech!

[epilogue]

The home video stuff is so weird and difficult. Nauseating at times. Who is filming most of that stuff? Who the fuck is filming pregnant Courtney powdering her vagina after a shower while complaining to Kurt that nobody in the media likes her while Kurt is shaving a mustache? Who is in the bathroom with them filming that? And why?

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU IN THERE WITH A CAMERA, PERSON?

[bada]

Why do you hate boob acne Joey?

[epilogue]

It distracts from Kurt's amazing Chris Cornell impression, that's why. That woman was ALWAYS trying to upstage him.

[LoathedVermin72]

i'm really tempted to say i like courtney more than kurt

[epilogue]

Not even a little bit surprised. I figured it was a definite, actually.

[epilogue]

This summer brings us Kurt Cobain's first solo LP.

On Kurt Cobain solo album, “You’re eavesdropping on him … in the most positive sense of the word”

Forthcoming LP features "cinematic" home recordings, spoken word segments

http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/05/o ... -the-word/

[vedder316]

The home video stuff is so weird and difficult. Nauseating at times. Who is filming most of that stuff? Who the fuck is filming pregnant Courtney powdering her vagina after a shower while complaining to Kurt that nobody in the media likes her while Kurt is shaving a mustache? Who is in the bathroom with them filming that? And why?

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU IN THERE WITH A CAMERA, PERSON?

I read somewhere that Eric Erlandson, Hole guitarist and former boyfriend of Courtney's, videotaped alot of that. I'll try and find the article, but Brett Morgen described it as beyond bizarre that Courtney's former love interest was filming the two of them.


I've only gotten to the point in the film where Nevermind broke big, I'm assuming the last half will be particularly gut wrenching.

[epilogue]

The home video stuff is so weird and difficult. Nauseating at times. Who is filming most of that stuff? Who the fuck is filming pregnant Courtney powdering her vagina after a shower while complaining to Kurt that nobody in the media likes her while Kurt is shaving a mustache? Who is in the bathroom with them filming that? And why?

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU IN THERE WITH A CAMERA, PERSON?

I read somewhere that Eric Erlandson, Hole guitarist and former boyfriend of Courtney's, videotaped alot of that. I'll try and find the article, but Brett Morgen described it as beyond bizarre that Courtney's former love interest was filming the two of them.

Jesus. If that's true, that's completely bizarre. There's just no bottom to her fucked-up-ness.

[vedder316]

The home video stuff is so weird and difficult. Nauseating at times. Who is filming most of that stuff? Who the fuck is filming pregnant Courtney powdering her vagina after a shower while complaining to Kurt that nobody in the media likes her while Kurt is shaving a mustache? Who is in the bathroom with them filming that? And why?

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU IN THERE WITH A CAMERA, PERSON?

I read somewhere that Eric Erlandson, Hole guitarist and former boyfriend of Courtney's, videotaped alot of that. I'll try and find the article, but Brett Morgen described it as beyond bizarre that Courtney's former love interest was filming the two of them.

Jesus. If that's true, that's completely bizarre. There's just no bottom to her fucked-up-ness.

This wasnt the exact article I saw, but this one from billboard mentions it towards the end:

http://www.billboard.com/kurt-cobain-mo ... m-festival

[epilogue]

The home video stuff is so weird and difficult. Nauseating at times. Who is filming most of that stuff? Who the fuck is filming pregnant Courtney powdering her vagina after a shower while complaining to Kurt that nobody in the media likes her while Kurt is shaving a mustache? Who is in the bathroom with them filming that? And why?

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU IN THERE WITH A CAMERA, PERSON?

I read somewhere that Eric Erlandson, Hole guitarist and former boyfriend of Courtney's, videotaped alot of that. I'll try and find the article, but Brett Morgen described it as beyond bizarre that Courtney's former love interest was filming the two of them.

Jesus. If that's true, that's completely bizarre. There's just no bottom to her fucked-up-ness.

This wasnt the exact article I saw, but this one from billboard mentions it towards the end:

http://www.billboard.com/kurt-cobain-mo ... m-festival

And Courtney doesn't want to talk about it.

[Jorge]

I feel like if that's true, Courtney is the least creepy person in that scenario.

[epilogue]

I feel like if that's true, Courtney is the least creepy person in that scenario.

Middle creepy.

[spike]

i'm pretty sure we can assume that kurt, courtney, and eric erlandson were all shooting up together when those vids were taken. if you put it in the context of three junkies hanging out, it sorta makes sense.

[epilogue]

i'm pretty sure we can assume that kurt, courtney, and eric erlandson were all shooting up together when those vids were taken. if you put it in the context of three junkies hanging out, it sorta makes sense.

Yeah, that's a fine point.

But it all leads to bigger.... you know what? Never mind.

[bodysnatcher]

[epilogue]

Get that guy the fuck outta here.

[Rangi Guy]

Is that Eric Erlandson? That let that man around their daughter?