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Glad to see how the vote in Scotland went
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Green Habit wrote:
Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:Some are saying the election was rigged, but in my opinion Labour's failure to defend a Labour-SNP alliance has won the Tories the election.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that Labour now has no choice but to ally with SNP if they have any hope in the immediate future of prying Number 10 away from the Tories. How else would they be able to do it?
Bang on. Labour angered their own voters and gave them nothing to believe in. When you believe your vote will be wasted, rain is the last weather you need on the day and it chucked it down for most of the afternoon.
So basically, Johnson and May spent Trump's presidency fighting each other over how best to sell the NHS to Trump.
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Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:Some are saying the election was rigged, but in my opinion Labour's failure to defend a Labour-SNP alliance has won the Tories the election.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that Labour now has no choice but to ally with SNP if they have any hope in the immediate future of prying Number 10 away from the Tories. How else would they be able to do it?
Bang on. Labour angered their own voters and gave them nothing to believe in. When you believe your vote will be wasted, rain is the last weather you need on the day and it chucked it down for most of the afternoon.
Can you fill us in a bit more on what exactly the SNP wants, and what they'd demand of Labour to keep a coalition between the two alive? I don't really know that much other than some vague sense of "addressing the wants and needs of the Scottish".
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Green Habit wrote:
Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Let's all laugh at Rangers wrote:Some are saying the election was rigged, but in my opinion Labour's failure to defend a Labour-SNP alliance has won the Tories the election.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that Labour now has no choice but to ally with SNP if they have any hope in the immediate future of prying Number 10 away from the Tories. How else would they be able to do it?
Bang on. Labour angered their own voters and gave them nothing to believe in. When you believe your vote will be wasted, rain is the last weather you need on the day and it chucked it down for most of the afternoon.
Can you fill us in a bit more on what exactly the SNP wants, and what they'd demand of Labour to keep a coalition between the two alive? I don't really know that much other than some vague sense of "addressing the wants and needs of the Scottish".
I think Trident is 1 of them, actually I think that's just about it. Miliband also mentioned the independence issue which is ridiculous as the SNP would never want to use a general election to push independence.
So basically, Johnson and May spent Trump's presidency fighting each other over how best to sell the NHS to Trump.
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I'm guessing some of you will still think he's full of shit, but I just like how I chuckled at the headline.

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I hope Corbyn wins but I won't be helping his campaign. Don't tell the Party leadership I'm not a Tory, or I might get banned from voting.
So basically, Johnson and May spent Trump's presidency fighting each other over how best to sell the NHS to Trump.
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Birds in Hell wrote:How 'bout that UK election, then?
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I knew the day of the 2015 election that Labour were screwed. I'm disappointed in Corbyn. Seems to be hedging all his bets on winning an election when he was supposed to transform the party and leave a lasting legacy for future generations of Labour supporters. Instead, he's given the purgers pretty much a free ride and nothing will have changed in the party when he stands down.
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So basically, Johnson and May spent Trump's presidency fighting each other over how best to sell the NHS to Trump.
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Birds in Hell wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:How 'bout that UK election, then?
I'm voting for Turd Sandwich.
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What does May have to gain by calling an election now?
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Green Habit wrote:What does May have to gain by calling an election now?
The Tories are very strong in the polls at the moment, and May was appointed unelected, so if she can campaign on her Brexit platform, and win, she's got a mandate going forward.
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ABNorman wrote:
Green Habit wrote:What does May have to gain by calling an election now?
The Tories are very strong in the polls at the moment, and May was appointed unelected, so if she can campaign on her Brexit platform, and win, she's got a mandate going forward.
Mandates are horribly overrated in US politics, as Trump and the Republicans are learning right now. Is it less overrated in UK politics?
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Green Habit wrote:
ABNorman wrote:
Green Habit wrote:What does May have to gain by calling an election now?
The Tories are very strong in the polls at the moment, and May was appointed unelected, so if she can campaign on her Brexit platform, and win, she's got a mandate going forward.
Mandates are horribly overrated in US politics, as Trump and the Republicans are learning right now. Is it less overrated in UK politics?
I was conflating a mandate with a more powerful majority in parliament there.

Essentially she stands a good chance of getting elected with a good majority, which A) allows her to use the "I have been given a mandate" line as the PR excuse for whatever she wants to do and B) makes it much harder for opposition to agitate for, for example, a parliamentary vote on the eventual Brexit deal.
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Is this anything we should be paying attention to?

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This is getting close!
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1 last day of hope.
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This will be an exciting watch. My girlfriend may kill someone tomorrow.
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Don't fret guys, I'm sure Corbyn's Labour will be (deservedly) smashed.
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Birds in Hell wrote:Don't fret guys, I'm sure Corbyn's Labour will be (deservedly) smashed.
I don't know where to start, Spenno. How can you possibly agree with May's manifesto and disagree with Corbyn's? I just can't see how anyone could.
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LetMeSleep wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:Don't fret guys, I'm sure Corbyn's Labour will be (deservedly) smashed.
I don't know where to start, Spenno. How can you possibly agree with May's manifesto and disagree with Corbyn's? I just can't see how anyone could.
You need to look into most of Spenno's trump posts. It will all make sense.
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