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bada wrote:I love Stip and appreciate his effort with these but when was the last time Stip had an opinion that surprised anyone? Don't we already know what he is going to say about these songs. The PJ forum is like getting together with your friends and all you talk about is high school. You've heard all these stories a million times.
I have a feeling I know what his opinions about each of these songs are, but that doesn't mean this exercise won't have value. As he's already pointed out, this is much more about looking at the album as a whole and how the songs work together. This is an examination of whether or not the album is telling a story and if so was it told successfully? It isn't (or shouldn't be) about taste as much as perspective. And that's fun, I think.

I'm one of posters, like digster, that doesn't see much of a connection between the songs. I'm not sure LB has a story to tell. To me, it really is more of a collection of songs than something super cohesive. Which isn't an insult by any means. I'm curious to discover how Stip hears the record and read about what connections he hears. Regardless of whether or not we hang the same number of stars on each song, I'm excited for this as a means to better understanding the album and how others hear it.

These are fun when we allow them to go beyond "you suck" "that sucks" "that rules" "fuck Infallible" "go blow a goat" and/or any reference to a receptacle of genitalia.
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Kaius wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
bada wrote:I already regret posting that I'm just cranky.
Eat a candy bar, it helps. My favorite is a Whatchamacallit.
Well, what's it called?!
What?
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Kaius wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
bada wrote:I already regret posting that I'm just cranky.
Eat a candy bar, it helps. My favorite is a Whatchamacallit.
Well, what's it called?!
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bada wrote:I loved those when I was a kid.
Embrace your inner child.
durdencommatyler wrote:
bada wrote:I love Stip and appreciate his effort with these but when was the last time Stip had an opinion that surprised anyone? Don't we already know what he is going to say about these songs. The PJ forum is like getting together with your friends and all you talk about is high school. You've heard all these stories a million times.
I have a feeling I know what his opinions about each of these songs are, but that doesn't mean this exercise won't have value. As he's already pointed out, this is much more about looking at the album as a whole and how the songs work together. This is an examination of whether or not the album is telling a story and if so was it told successfully? It isn't (or shouldn't be) about taste as much as perspective. And that's fun, I think.

I'm one of posters, like digster, that doesn't see much of a connection between the songs. I'm not sure LB has a story to tell. To me, it really is more of a collection of songs than something super cohesive. Which isn't an insult by any means. I'm curious to discover how Stip hears the record and read about what connections he hears. Regardless of whether or not we hang the same number of stars on each song, I'm excited for this as a means to better understanding the album and how others hear it.

These are fun when we allow them to go beyond "you suck" "that sucks" "that rules" "fuck Infallible" "go blow a goat" and/or any reference to a receptacle of genitalia.
As long as it includes a bag of dicks, right?
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Monkey_Driven wrote:
bada wrote:I loved those when I was a kid.
Embrace your inner child.
durdencommatyler wrote:
bada wrote:I love Stip and appreciate his effort with these but when was the last time Stip had an opinion that surprised anyone? Don't we already know what he is going to say about these songs. The PJ forum is like getting together with your friends and all you talk about is high school. You've heard all these stories a million times.
I have a feeling I know what his opinions about each of these songs are, but that doesn't mean this exercise won't have value. As he's already pointed out, this is much more about looking at the album as a whole and how the songs work together. This is an examination of whether or not the album is telling a story and if so was it told successfully? It isn't (or shouldn't be) about taste as much as perspective. And that's fun, I think.

I'm one of posters, like digster, that doesn't see much of a connection between the songs. I'm not sure LB has a story to tell. To me, it really is more of a collection of songs than something super cohesive. Which isn't an insult by any means. I'm curious to discover how Stip hears the record and read about what connections he hears. Regardless of whether or not we hang the same number of stars on each song, I'm excited for this as a means to better understanding the album and how others hear it.

These are fun when we allow them to go beyond "you suck" "that sucks" "that rules" "fuck Infallible" "go blow a goat" and/or any reference to a receptacle of genitalia.
As long as it includes a bag of dicks, right?
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Re: A Guided Tour of Lightning Bolt: Introduction

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Monkey_Driven wrote:
bada wrote:I loved those when I was a kid.
Embrace your inner child.

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Sorry to derail your thread Stip. We are just anticipating Getaway's blurb.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Kaius wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
bada wrote:I already regret posting that I'm just cranky.
Eat a candy bar, it helps. My favorite is a Whatchamacallit.
Well, what's it called?!
What?
His favorite candy bar.
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Kaius wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Kaius wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
bada wrote:I already regret posting that I'm just cranky.
Eat a candy bar, it helps. My favorite is a Whatchamacallit.
Well, what's it called?!
What?
His favorite candy bar.
What about it?
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Stip's intro already comes at the album from an angle that compels me to read further. I don't think his write-up here will just be a good song/bad song analysis.
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Kevin Davis wrote:Stip's intro already comes at the album from an angle that compels me to read further. I don't think his write-up here will just be a good song/bad song analysis.
They never are. Which is why they genuinely are some of my favorite threads on RM.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:Stip's intro already comes at the album from an angle that compels me to read further. I don't think his write-up here will just be a good song/bad song analysis.
They never are. Which is why they genuinely are some of my favorite threads on RM.
Agreed. There is not enough in-depth discussion of songs and albums in this forum. It usually just comes down to assigning stars or ranking things.

We should really do that podcast.
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I wish i could form thoughts worth expressing and then be able to articulate them thoroughly for others to enjoy.


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Monkey_Driven wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:Stip's intro already comes at the album from an angle that compels me to read further. I don't think his write-up here will just be a good song/bad song analysis.
They never are. Which is why they genuinely are some of my favorite threads on RM.
Agreed. There is not enough in-depth discussion of songs and albums in this forum. It usually just comes down to assigning stars or ranking things.

We should really do that podcast.
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Strat wrote:I wish i could form thoughts worth expressing and then be able to articulate them thoroughly for others to enjoy.


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Strat wrote:I wish i could form thoughts worth expressing and then be able to articulate them thoroughly for others to enjoy.


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Looking forward to discussing Getaway. It's a song I can't decide whether I like or not.
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Leatherhead wrote:Looking forward to discussing Getaway. It's a song I can't decide whether I like or not.
Does this help you decide?
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:Looking forward to discussing Getaway. It's a song I can't decide whether I like or not.
Does this help you decide?
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Kaius wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Kaius wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
bada wrote:I already regret posting that I'm just cranky.
Eat a candy bar, it helps. My favorite is a Whatchamacallit.
Well, what's it called?!
What?
His favorite candy bar.
What about it?
I want to know what it is.
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