Lightning Bolt or Backspacer?

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Re: Lightning Bolt or Backspacer?

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McParadigm wrote:'I can feel like I put away my early grave' is a pretty key lyric on an album that is ostensibly more playful and upbeat than most, but also full of songs about final goodbyes, the need to change, and frustration.

It's a terribly boring song as far as I'm concerned. But it's probably needed to tie those two extremes together, and credit to them for not lazily repeating either the verse or a chorus section under the solo.
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Re: Lightning Bolt or Backspacer?

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For me it is Lightspacer
1. Gsmf
2. Mind Your Manners
3. Getaway
4. The Fixer
5. Johnny Guitar
6. My Fathers Son
7. Speed Of Sound
8. Swallowed Hole
9. Sleeping By Myself
10. Unthought Known
11. Yellow Moon
12. Force of Nature
13. Pendulum
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If I did a LightSpacer track vs track it'd be.

GSMF
Got Some
The Fixer
Johnny Guitar
Just Breathe (I remember that I didn't mind this at first.)
Infallible
Pendulum
Swallowed Whole
Speed Of Sound
Force of Nature
Yellow Moon

Even with no contender there'd be no FD.

So BS 7, LB 4.
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Lightspacer:
Pendulum
GSMF
MYM
MY Fathers Son
The Fixer
Johnny Guitar
Just Breathe
Infallible
Sirens
Supersonic
Sleeping By Myself
Yellow Moon
Force of Nature
The End
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i think this is the direction Ed was trying to take the band on LB, but he just couldn't quite get there when it came time to hit 'record':

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I like that way more than any song on LB
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me too
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LetMeSleep wrote:If I did a LightSpacer track vs track it'd be.

GSMF
Got Some
The Fixer
Johnny Guitar
Just Breathe (I remember that I didn't mind this at first.)
Infallible
Pendulum
Swallowed Whole
Speed Of Sound
Force of Nature
Yellow Moon

Even with no contender there'd be no FD.

So BS 7, LB 4.
Not counting track 12:

Gonna See My Friend
Mind Your Manners (favorite from either session)
The Fixer
Johnny Guitar or Sirens (depends on the day - quite like both)
Lightning Bolt
Amongst the Waves or infallible (depends on the day - quite like both)
Pendulum
Swallowed Whole
Speed of Sound
Force of Nature (second favorite from either session)
Yellow Moon

Bs: 4
Lb: 5
Tied:2

One kick ass album though.
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GSMF or Getaway... man... Even with Ed's clunky and misplaced Italian, I suppose I'll go with GSMF.

Got Some or Mind Your Manners.... I love both of these songs. Got Some is close to the best song on BS. Mind Your Manners is in the top 5 on LB. Gonna go with MYM here.

The Fixer v My Father's Son... Again, love 'em both. But My Father's Son.

Johnny Guitar v Sirens... God, that's tough. Could change day to day. I think Sirens is more gooey and sentimental and I like gooey and sentimental. Johnny Guitar has some great (maybe the best latter-day Ed) imagery. Tough, tough call... I'll go Sirens

Just Breathe v Lightning Bolt... hahahahahahahahahaha! Just Breathe. OF COURSE.

Amongst the Waves v Infallible... can't decide. Both are awesome. I'm keeping both of them.

Unthought Known v Pendulum.... Another no brainer. Pendulum by a country mile.

Super Sonic v Swallowed Whole... Not a big fan of either of these. Since I kept both AtW and Infallible earlier, I'll eliminate both of these here.

Speed of Sound v Let the Records Play... Speed of Sound, easily.

Force of Nature v Sleeping by Myself ... I hate Force of Nature, so... SBM

The End v Yellow Moon... Yellow Moon all goddamn day long, team. All. Day. LONG.

So...

Gonna See My Friend
Mind Your Manners
My Father's Son
Sirens
Just Breathe
Amongst the Waves
Infallible
Pendulum
Swallowed Whole
Speed of Sound
Sleeping by Myself
Yellow Moon
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Gonna See My Friend
Got Some
My Father's Son
Johnny Guitar
Just Breathe
Infallible
Pendulum
Swallowed Whole
Speed of Sound
Sleeping By Myself
The End
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My version of LightSpacer/BackBolt is pretty much most of LB with a few BS track mixed in.

Getaway
Mind Your Manners
My Father's Son
Johnny Guitar
Sirens
Speed of Sound
Unthought Known
Lightning Bolt
Infallible
Just Breathe
Pendulum
Swallowed Whole
Let The Records Play
Force of Nature
Future Days
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If I were going to make a mix of songs from those albums, I would track it like this:

The End
The Fixer
Mind Your Manners
Just Breathe
Force of Nature
Sleeping By Myself
Gonna See My Friend
Johnny Guitar

I like The Fixer as a response to The End, and MYM's overblown politicizing feels more playful when coming off of an optimistic song about fixing the world and yourself.

Up until the last track, each of these feels like a good response to the song that precedes it, to me. Content wise, anyway. It starts to feel like a narrative of sorts.
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McParadigm wrote:If I were going to make a mix of songs from those albums, I would track it like this:

The End
The Fixer
Mind Your Manners
Just Breathe
Force of Nature
Sleeping By Myself
Gonna See My Friend
Johnny Guitar

I like The Fixer as a response to The End, and MYM's overblown politicizing feels more playful when coming off of an optimistic song about fixing the world and yourself.

Up until the last track, each of these feels like a good response to the song that precedes it, to me. Content wise, anyway. It starts to feel like a narrative of sorts.
Fun.

I have no idea how I would actually try to compose this kind of thing. I do like the name BackBolt more than LightSpacer, though.
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McParadigm wrote:If I were going to make a mix of songs from those albums, I would track it like this:

The End
The Fixer
Mind Your Manners
Just Breathe
Force of Nature
Sleeping By Myself
Gonna See My Friend
Johnny Guitar

I like The Fixer as a response to The End, and MYM's overblown politicizing feels more playful when coming off of an optimistic song about fixing the world and yourself.

Up until the last track, each of these feels like a good response to the song that precedes it, to me. Content wise, anyway. It starts to feel like a narrative of sorts.
I was trying to put together a BS/LB album as well, this gives me some good ideas on the tracking.
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Strat wrote:Lightspacer:
Pendulum
GSMF
MYM
MY Fathers Son
The Fixer
Johnny Guitar
Just Breathe
Infallible
Sirens
Supersonic
Sleeping By Myself
Yellow Moon
Force of Nature
The End

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Anybody wanna sequence these 15 songs for me?

Gonna See My Friend
Got Some
The Fixer
Johnny Guitar
Supersonic
Speed of Sound
Force of Nature
The End
Mind Your Manners
My Father's Son
Sirens
Lightning Bolt
Pendulum
Swallowed Whole
Sleeping By Myself

15 songs?? Maybe I like BS and LB more than I think I do.
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Pendulum
Swallowed Whole
Force of Nature
Sirens
Lightning Bolt
Got Some
Mind Your Manners
My Fathers Son
Speed Of Sound
Gonna See My Friend
The Fixer
Supersonic
Sleeping By My Self
Johnny Guitar
The End

There ya go
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Am I the only one who thinks Getaway is terrible?
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Getaway is the only song I really like from LB
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I really despise Ed's vocal delivery, and lyrics. Especially the bit about lizards.
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