Let's Actually Listen to the Album: Pearl Jam

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Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:Life Wasted is by far my least favourite album opener.
Mine too. Horrible, horrible song.
It's pretty mediocre, but it has energy, interplay, and one or two solid lyrics. All of these things are lacking in Getaway, which is easily the winner of that contest.
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Birds in Hell wrote:I think the production definitely shaped people's attitudes towards this record, even if on a subconscious level.
This is true for every record.
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Last Exit
Brain of J.
Go


Breakerfall
Can't Keep
Once
Sometimes

Getaway
Life Wasted







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stip wrote:It's high time more people on RM moved onto a more sophisticated ranking system where you not only rank, but include tiers. Otherwise how does anyone know how much distance is between 1 and 10? We might as well not even bother ranking at all!
He' go:

Last Exit
Go
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Can't Keep
Brain of J
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Sometimes
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Once
Breakerfall
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Getaway
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Life Wasted
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That's much better than the real art
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It is. And it's the artwork I use on my iPod for the remix. Honestly, this album is so much better remixed with that artwork.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
stip wrote:It's high time more people on RM moved onto a more sophisticated ranking system where you not only rank, but include tiers. Otherwise how does anyone know how much distance is between 1 and 10? We might as well not even bother ranking at all!
How do you suggest representing the tiers? And how do we know how much distance there is between each tier? How should those gaps be represented?
We should field test different possibilities
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stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
stip wrote:It's high time more people on RM moved onto a more sophisticated ranking system where you not only rank, but include tiers. Otherwise how does anyone know how much distance is between 1 and 10? We might as well not even bother ranking at all!
How do you suggest representing the tiers? And how do we know how much distance there is between each tier? How should those gaps be represented?
We should field test different possibilities
I'll help. This is super important.
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What did you think of my ranking that had (----) between each tier?
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I think dashes between spaces may make for clearer delineations. Perhaps a brief description of what each tier means
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stip wrote:I think dashes between spaces may make for clearer delineations. Perhaps a brief description of what each tier means
Like (for example)

Top Tier/ Great/ 5 Stars

-------

Middle Tier/ Good/ 3-4 Stars

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Bottom Tier/ Bad/ 2 or less Stars

You mean like that?
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My +1, 0, -1 is clearly the best way
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:My +1, 0, -1 is clearly the best way
So rank the albums your way.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
stip wrote:I think dashes between spaces may make for clearer delineations. Perhaps a brief description of what each tier means
Like (for example)

Top Tier/ Great/ 5 Stars

-------

Middle Tier/ Good/ 3-4 Stars

-------

Bottom Tier/ Bad/ 2 or less Stars

You mean like that?

We need a larger N, but I think that has potential
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Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:Life Wasted is by far my least favourite album opener.
Mine too. Horrible, horrible song.
I agree with every word here.

Except for that damn "u" in the word "favorite" :peace:
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Openers (with tiers)

Top Shelf/5 stars
1. Last Exit
2. Go

Good Tunes
3. Breakerfall
4. Brain of J
5. Sometimes
6. Can't Keep

Eh
7. Once
8. Gonna See My Friend

Shit
9. Life Wasted
10. Getaway
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So, I really need to listen to this remix. Can't believe I haven't yet. Too much life in the way lately.

I've said many times that this album is a pretty good collection of tunes, just held back by the crap way it sounds with close listening. It's a decent listen in the car or whilst grilling burgers, but focused listening becomes distracting and unenjoyable. Sounds like this latest effort may have fixed that...
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Listening to this now. Can someone explain what these Peak/RMS measurements mean in lay terms?

Original version:
DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR6 0.00 dB -6.53 dB 3:54 01-Life Wasted
DR6 0.00 dB -6.79 dB 3:29 02-World Wide Suicide
DR5 0.00 dB -5.44 dB 2:20 03-Comatose
DR6 0.00 dB -7.39 dB 4:30 04-Severed Hand
DR6 0.00 dB -6.50 dB 4:23 05-Marker In The Sand
DR6 0.00 dB -7.60 dB 3:36 06-Parachutes
DR6 0.00 dB -7.47 dB 3:04 07-Unemployable
DR5 0.00 dB -6.16 dB 2:58 08-Big Wave
DR6 0.00 dB -7.85 dB 4:09 09-Gone
DR11 -0.15 dB -14.36 dB 0:54 10-Wasted Reprise
DR6 0.00 dB -7.03 dB 3:45 11-Army Reserve
DR6 0.00 dB -6.92 dB 5:30 12-Come Back
DR6 0.00 dB -9.61 dB 7:09 13-Inside Job

Remastered version:
DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR13 -0.18 dB -14.23 dB 3:54 01-Life Wasted
DR13 -0.09 dB -14.06 dB 3:29 02-World Wide Suicide
DR12 -0.18 dB -13.26 dB 2:20 03-Comatose
DR13 -0.23 dB -14.70 dB 4:30 04-Severed Hand
DR13 -0.18 dB -14.37 dB 4:23 05-Marker In The Sand
DR14 -0.20 dB -15.21 dB 3:36 06-Parachutes
DR14 -0.19 dB -15.10 dB 3:04 07-Unemployable
DR13 -0.37 dB -14.16 dB 2:58 08-Big Wave
DR13 -0.38 dB -15.92 dB 4:09 09-Gone
DR11 -9.15 dB -23.36 dB 0:54 10-Wasted Reprise
DR13 -0.12 dB -14.04 dB 3:45 11-Army Reserve
DR13 -0.35 dB -14.83 dB 5:30 12-Come Back
DR13 -0.20 dB -17.09 dB 6:36 13-Inside Job
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