Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #1: Vitalogy

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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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Vs. as low as 9? I can take being mocked as the example of idiotic posting, but this is going too far. I quit RM!
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #7: Riot Act

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4/5 wrote:
The Argonaut wrote:
4/5 wrote: The highest score it received was 40 points. (15 points was next highest)
I gave Vs. 17 points :?:
Yes you did, and I did record your score correctly, so all the averages are correct. I must have missed it when I glanced through the scores looking for the second highest.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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B, this is going to get worse before it gets better.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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4/5 wrote:
stip wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:I had Vs a reluctant 5th with 13pts, but only 2pts behind my top. There are so many top tier songs on this: plus it just sounds FIERCE:

Go
Animal
Daughter
Rearviewmirror
Indifference
Elderly Woman, too!

that's a top 6 that will stack against any record, including Ten and Vitalogy
Man I used to love Indifference so much...and then I saw it live...with the lights on...and that song has just never been the same for me.
Yeah...I can't really speak to older versions of the song, and how those played in the room, but when I saw them do Indifference, it just seemed so, for lack of a better term, deflated. It just doesn't seem to work as a closer, at least in the way they want it to.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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4/5, would any positions have changed if outliers were removed (say a score over 25 or a 0)?
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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If you replace LV's 40 with a 20, vs. still scores a 10.6.
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stip wrote:4/5, would any positions have changed if outliers were removed (say a score over 25 or a 0)?
Ask me again when it's all over. For now I'll say that Vs. would have been 6th either way. Vs. was about 100 points ahead of Riot Act, so the 40 points didn't make a difference in the rankings. If he had given it 47 points instead, it would have been #5, though.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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4/5 wrote:
stip wrote:4/5, would any positions have changed if outliers were removed (say a score over 25 or a 0)?
Ask me again when it's all over. For now I'll say that Vs. would have been 6th either way. Vs. was about 100 points ahead of Riot Act, so the 40 points didn't make a difference in the rankings. If he had given it 47 points instead, it would have been #5, though.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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stip wrote:4/5, would any positions have changed if outliers were removed (say a score over 25 or a 0)?
Backspacer was really hurt by the number of "0" scores, but it's hard to call that an outlier since it was the mode, if I'm not mistaken. But if 0's were eliminated Backspacer would have beaten Lightning Bolt.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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I figured, but a zero is an overly precious score. I'm more interested in whether or not an abnormally high score skewed something in the top 5-6.
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stip wrote:I figured, but a zero is an overly precious score. I'm more interested in whether or not an abnormally high score skewed something in the top 5-6.
I stand by my 0s.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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if it makes you feel better, if we had decimal points I'd give Backspacer 0.000347. So it isn't nothing.

Mind you it's not better than nothing, but it isn't nothing.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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stip wrote:I figured, but a zero is an overly precious score. I'm more interested in whether or not an abnormally high score skewed something in the top 5-6.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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3. Vs. 15
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7. Riot Act 6
8. S/T 3
9. Backspacer 1
10. Lightning Bolt 1
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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The only real problem with scoring Backspacer 0 is that it leaves you no avenue for scoring LB even lower.
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McParadigm wrote:The only real problem with scoring Backspacer 0 is that it leaves you no avenue for scoring LB even lower.
I almost gave Backspacer a 1 for this very reason but that would have been one less point to give to a good record.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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Vs is Pearl Jam's best album and now I feel terrible I didn't score it higher (I gave five albums an equal score as I think they're all uniformly excellent).

I'm sorry, Vs. :(
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I can't wait to do this with songs on each album. Get on it Stip.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #6: Vs.

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We should do that and then multiply the average score of each song (after dividing it by the number of songs by album so songs from shorter albums are not affected) and the average score of its album and make a weighted catalog ranking.
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