I don't hate that song, I don't even dislike it, it just seems invisible most of the time. Whenever I actually give it a listen I have no objections to it, I just don't particularly listen to it much at all. I'd give it 3/5 stars.stip wrote:well, thin air, too.PHATJ wrote:One song that I seriously don't like (Soon Forget) and one I find pretty boring (Light Years) is a lot of apologies?stip wrote:There's a lot of apologies there for your number 2 seedPHATJ wrote:This is the highest I've ever ranked Binaural, and its happened for a number of reasons. It is currently the album I'm playing most and finding most interesting. I was one that had a really hard time warming up to this album in totality. I also used to bemoan the absence of gems like Sad, In The Moonlight, and Education. I still think these songs could have fit into the album, but as I've come to appreciate Binaural for what it is (instead of disliking it for what it isn't) I've found a great admiration for what is there.
Sleight of Hand is the single best song PJ has ever written. Nothing As It Seems is wonderful. I love Breakerfall, Of The Girl, and Rival. Evacuation and God's Dice used to be two of my most hated PJ songs. I have come full circle on Evacuation and I truly enjoy it now. God's Dice is pretty rad too. Then there is Insignificance, Grievance, and Parting Ways. All very strong songs. Thin Air is forgettable, but when I do listen to it I don't hate it at all. Light Years has never been a favorite of mine. I find it pretty boring, but it isn't terrible, and I occasionally almost think I could like it. (I really wish Sad was in its place.) Soon Forget is a stupid song and should never have been on any album, but I can't complain too much about one pure piece of shit making the track list. (Education should've been in this spot.)
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No it's not.cutuphalfdead wrote:It's true.@SkitchP wrote:Yield and Binaural are both quite a bit better than No Code.
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Thin Air is a great song.PHATJ wrote:stip wrote:well, thin air, too.PHATJ wrote:One song that I seriously don't like (Soon Forget) and one I find pretty boring (Light Years) is a lot of apologies?stip wrote:There's a lot of apologies there for your number 2 seedPHATJ wrote:This is the highest I've ever ranked Binaural, and its happened for a number of reasons. It is currently the album I'm playing most and finding most interesting. I was one that had a really hard time warming up to this album in totality. I also used to bemoan the absence of gems like Sad, In The Moonlight, and Education. I still think these songs could have fit into the album, but as I've come to appreciate Binaural for what it is (instead of disliking it for what it isn't) I've found a great admiration for what is there.
Sleight of Hand is the single best song PJ has ever written. Nothing As It Seems is wonderful. I love Breakerfall, Of The Girl, and Rival. Evacuation and God's Dice used to be two of my most hated PJ songs. I have come full circle on Evacuation and I truly enjoy it now. God's Dice is pretty rad too. Then there is Insignificance, Grievance, and Parting Ways. All very strong songs. Thin Air is forgettable, but when I do listen to it I don't hate it at all. Light Years has never been a favorite of mine. I find it pretty boring, but it isn't terrible, and I occasionally almost think I could like it. (I really wish Sad was in its place.) Soon Forget is a stupid song and should never have been on any album, but I can't complain too much about one pure piece of shit making the track list. (Education should've been in this spot.)
I don't hate that song, I don't even dislike it, it just seems invisible most of the time. Whenever I actually give it a listen I have no objections to it, I just don't particularly listen to it much at all. I'd give it 3/5 stars.
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Maybe not quite a bit, but a bit.darth_vedder wrote:No it's not.cutuphalfdead wrote:It's true.@SkitchP wrote:Yield and Binaural are both quite a bit better than No Code.
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I'm listening to Thin Air right now...PHATJ wrote:I don't hate that song, I don't even dislike it, it just seems invisible most of the time. Whenever I actually give it a listen I have no objections to it, I just don't particularly listen to it much at all. I'd give it 3/5 stars.stip wrote:well, thin air, too.PHATJ wrote:One song that I seriously don't like (Soon Forget) and one I find pretty boring (Light Years) is a lot of apologies?stip wrote:There's a lot of apologies there for your number 2 seedPHATJ wrote:This is the highest I've ever ranked Binaural, and its happened for a number of reasons. It is currently the album I'm playing most and finding most interesting. I was one that had a really hard time warming up to this album in totality. I also used to bemoan the absence of gems like Sad, In The Moonlight, and Education. I still think these songs could have fit into the album, but as I've come to appreciate Binaural for what it is (instead of disliking it for what it isn't) I've found a great admiration for what is there.
Sleight of Hand is the single best song PJ has ever written. Nothing As It Seems is wonderful. I love Breakerfall, Of The Girl, and Rival. Evacuation and God's Dice used to be two of my most hated PJ songs. I have come full circle on Evacuation and I truly enjoy it now. God's Dice is pretty rad too. Then there is Insignificance, Grievance, and Parting Ways. All very strong songs. Thin Air is forgettable, but when I do listen to it I don't hate it at all. Light Years has never been a favorite of mine. I find it pretty boring, but it isn't terrible, and I occasionally almost think I could like it. (I really wish Sad was in its place.) Soon Forget is a stupid song and should never have been on any album, but I can't complain too much about one pure piece of shit making the track list. (Education should've been in this spot.)
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You could make a good case to order the top 4 in any order. The "quite a bit" part is what I disagreed with.cutuphalfdead wrote:Maybe not quite a bit, but a bit.darth_vedder wrote:No it's not.cutuphalfdead wrote:It's true.@SkitchP wrote:Yield and Binaural are both quite a bit better than No Code.
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Yeah, but the problem with No Code is I'm Open. Yield and Binaural don't have anything like that going on.darth_vedder wrote:You could make a good case to order the top 4 in any order. The "quite a bit" part is what I disagreed with.cutuphalfdead wrote:Maybe not quite a bit, but a bit.darth_vedder wrote:No it's not.cutuphalfdead wrote:It's true.@SkitchP wrote:Yield and Binaural are both quite a bit better than No Code.
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Man, Thin Air is a good song. I like it better than I was giving it credit for. I'd still give it 3/5 or maybe 3.5/5, but I do like it better than I was initially selling.PHATJ wrote:I'm listening to Thin Air right now...PHATJ wrote:I don't hate that song, I don't even dislike it, it just seems invisible most of the time. Whenever I actually give it a listen I have no objections to it, I just don't particularly listen to it much at all. I'd give it 3/5 stars.stip wrote:well, thin air, too.PHATJ wrote:One song that I seriously don't like (Soon Forget) and one I find pretty boring (Light Years) is a lot of apologies?stip wrote:There's a lot of apologies there for your number 2 seedPHATJ wrote:This is the highest I've ever ranked Binaural, and its happened for a number of reasons. It is currently the album I'm playing most and finding most interesting. I was one that had a really hard time warming up to this album in totality. I also used to bemoan the absence of gems like Sad, In The Moonlight, and Education. I still think these songs could have fit into the album, but as I've come to appreciate Binaural for what it is (instead of disliking it for what it isn't) I've found a great admiration for what is there.
Sleight of Hand is the single best song PJ has ever written. Nothing As It Seems is wonderful. I love Breakerfall, Of The Girl, and Rival. Evacuation and God's Dice used to be two of my most hated PJ songs. I have come full circle on Evacuation and I truly enjoy it now. God's Dice is pretty rad too. Then there is Insignificance, Grievance, and Parting Ways. All very strong songs. Thin Air is forgettable, but when I do listen to it I don't hate it at all. Light Years has never been a favorite of mine. I find it pretty boring, but it isn't terrible, and I occasionally almost think I could like it. (I really wish Sad was in its place.) Soon Forget is a stupid song and should never have been on any album, but I can't complain too much about one pure piece of shit making the track list. (Education should've been in this spot.)
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Binaural has Soon Forget.cutuphalfdead wrote:Yeah, but the problem with No Code is I'm Open. Yield and Binaural don't have anything like that going on.darth_vedder wrote:You could make a good case to order the top 4 in any order. The "quite a bit" part is what I disagreed with.cutuphalfdead wrote:Maybe not quite a bit, but a bit.darth_vedder wrote:No it's not.cutuphalfdead wrote:It's true.@SkitchP wrote:Yield and Binaural are both quite a bit better than No Code.
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I'm Open is terrible. I'll admit that, but the highs on No Code surpass the highs on Yield / Binaural. As for Binaural, I clearly love it, and it made my top 4, but it's still so frustrating. Seriously, I hate "Soon Forget" almost as much as I hate "I'm Open". Why the hell is that song on the album and not Fatal? So to me, that's takes points away from Binaural as much as "I'm Open" takes points away from No Code for you.cutuphalfdead wrote:Yeah, but the problem with No Code is I'm Open. Yield and Binaural don't have anything like that going on.darth_vedder wrote:You could make a good case to order the top 4 in any order. The "quite a bit" part is what I disagreed with.cutuphalfdead wrote:Maybe not quite a bit, but a bit.darth_vedder wrote:No it's not.cutuphalfdead wrote:It's true.@SkitchP wrote:Yield and Binaural are both quite a bit better than No Code.
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It's a nice little ditty.PHATJ wrote:Man, Thin Air is a good song. I like it better than I was giving it credit for. I'd still give it 3/5 or maybe 3.5/5, but I do like it better than I was initially selling.PHATJ wrote:I'm listening to Thin Air right now...PHATJ wrote:I don't hate that song, I don't even dislike it, it just seems invisible most of the time. Whenever I actually give it a listen I have no objections to it, I just don't particularly listen to it much at all. I'd give it 3/5 stars.stip wrote:well, thin air, too.PHATJ wrote:One song that I seriously don't like (Soon Forget) and one I find pretty boring (Light Years) is a lot of apologies?stip wrote:There's a lot of apologies there for your number 2 seedPHATJ wrote:This is the highest I've ever ranked Binaural, and its happened for a number of reasons. It is currently the album I'm playing most and finding most interesting. I was one that had a really hard time warming up to this album in totality. I also used to bemoan the absence of gems like Sad, In The Moonlight, and Education. I still think these songs could have fit into the album, but as I've come to appreciate Binaural for what it is (instead of disliking it for what it isn't) I've found a great admiration for what is there.
Sleight of Hand is the single best song PJ has ever written. Nothing As It Seems is wonderful. I love Breakerfall, Of The Girl, and Rival. Evacuation and God's Dice used to be two of my most hated PJ songs. I have come full circle on Evacuation and I truly enjoy it now. God's Dice is pretty rad too. Then there is Insignificance, Grievance, and Parting Ways. All very strong songs. Thin Air is forgettable, but when I do listen to it I don't hate it at all. Light Years has never been a favorite of mine. I find it pretty boring, but it isn't terrible, and I occasionally almost think I could like it. (I really wish Sad was in its place.) Soon Forget is a stupid song and should never have been on any album, but I can't complain too much about one pure piece of shit making the track list. (Education should've been in this spot.)
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #3: Yield
Not even close to the same thing.PHATJ wrote:Binaural has Soon Forget.cutuphalfdead wrote:Yeah, but the problem with No Code is I'm Open. Yield and Binaural don't have anything like that going on.darth_vedder wrote:You could make a good case to order the top 4 in any order. The "quite a bit" part is what I disagreed with.cutuphalfdead wrote:Maybe not quite a bit, but a bit.darth_vedder wrote:No it's not.cutuphalfdead wrote:It's true.@SkitchP wrote:Yield and Binaural are both quite a bit better than No Code.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #3: Yield
I disagree. Soon Forget is terrible, especially when you consider Sad, Education, In The Moonlight, or Fatal could have replaced it.cutuphalfdead wrote:Not even close to the same thing.PHATJ wrote:Binaural has Soon Forget.cutuphalfdead wrote:Yeah, but the problem with No Code is I'm Open. Yield and Binaural don't have anything like that going on.darth_vedder wrote:You could make a good case to order the top 4 in any order. The "quite a bit" part is what I disagreed with.cutuphalfdead wrote:Maybe not quite a bit, but a bit.darth_vedder wrote:No it's not.cutuphalfdead wrote:It's true.@SkitchP wrote:Yield and Binaural are both quite a bit better than No Code.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #4: Binaural
then consider my previous comment withdrawnPHATJ wrote:Man, Thin Air is a good song. I like it better than I was giving it credit for. I'd still give it 3/5 or maybe 3.5/5, but I do like it better than I was initially selling.PHATJ wrote:I'm listening to Thin Air right now...PHATJ wrote:I don't hate that song, I don't even dislike it, it just seems invisible most of the time. Whenever I actually give it a listen I have no objections to it, I just don't particularly listen to it much at all. I'd give it 3/5 stars.stip wrote:well, thin air, too.PHATJ wrote:One song that I seriously don't like (Soon Forget) and one I find pretty boring (Light Years) is a lot of apologies?stip wrote:There's a lot of apologies there for your number 2 seedPHATJ wrote:This is the highest I've ever ranked Binaural, and its happened for a number of reasons. It is currently the album I'm playing most and finding most interesting. I was one that had a really hard time warming up to this album in totality. I also used to bemoan the absence of gems like Sad, In The Moonlight, and Education. I still think these songs could have fit into the album, but as I've come to appreciate Binaural for what it is (instead of disliking it for what it isn't) I've found a great admiration for what is there.
Sleight of Hand is the single best song PJ has ever written. Nothing As It Seems is wonderful. I love Breakerfall, Of The Girl, and Rival. Evacuation and God's Dice used to be two of my most hated PJ songs. I have come full circle on Evacuation and I truly enjoy it now. God's Dice is pretty rad too. Then there is Insignificance, Grievance, and Parting Ways. All very strong songs. Thin Air is forgettable, but when I do listen to it I don't hate it at all. Light Years has never been a favorite of mine. I find it pretty boring, but it isn't terrible, and I occasionally almost think I could like it. (I really wish Sad was in its place.) Soon Forget is a stupid song and should never have been on any album, but I can't complain too much about one pure piece of shit making the track list. (Education should've been in this spot.)
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #3: Yield
Actually it seems almost identical.cutuphalfdead wrote:Not even close to the same thing.PHATJ wrote:Binaural has Soon Forget.cutuphalfdead wrote:Yeah, but the problem with No Code is I'm Open. Yield and Binaural don't have anything like that going on.darth_vedder wrote:You could make a good case to order the top 4 in any order. The "quite a bit" part is what I disagreed with.cutuphalfdead wrote:Maybe not quite a bit, but a bit.darth_vedder wrote:No it's not.cutuphalfdead wrote:It's true.@SkitchP wrote:Yield and Binaural are both quite a bit better than No Code.
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #3: Yield
Soon Forget has a lightness and levity to it, while I'm Open is so super serious in an adolescent way it makes me cringe. I can't listen to it.stip wrote:Actually it seems almost identical.cutuphalfdead wrote:Not even close to the same thing.PHATJ wrote:Binaural has Soon Forget.cutuphalfdead wrote:Yeah, but the problem with No Code is I'm Open. Yield and Binaural don't have anything like that going on.darth_vedder wrote:You could make a good case to order the top 4 in any order. The "quite a bit" part is what I disagreed with.cutuphalfdead wrote:Maybe not quite a bit, but a bit.darth_vedder wrote:No it's not.cutuphalfdead wrote:It's true.@SkitchP wrote:Yield and Binaural are both quite a bit better than No Code.
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When I said "Thin Air is forgettable, but when I do listen to it I don't hate it at all" I can see why you would have thought I didn't care for the song. In truth, I just barely ever listen to it. But when it does come on I don't hit skip, and I do sing along. I should have said "Thin Air is forgettable, but when I do listen to it I always like it better than I remember". That would've been the more accurate description.stip wrote:then consider my previous comment withdrawnPHATJ wrote:Man, Thin Air is a good song. I like it better than I was giving it credit for. I'd still give it 3/5 or maybe 3.5/5, but I do like it better than I was initially selling.PHATJ wrote:I'm listening to Thin Air right now...PHATJ wrote:I don't hate that song, I don't even dislike it, it just seems invisible most of the time. Whenever I actually give it a listen I have no objections to it, I just don't particularly listen to it much at all. I'd give it 3/5 stars.stip wrote:well, thin air, too.PHATJ wrote:One song that I seriously don't like (Soon Forget) and one I find pretty boring (Light Years) is a lot of apologies?stip wrote:There's a lot of apologies there for your number 2 seedPHATJ wrote:This is the highest I've ever ranked Binaural, and its happened for a number of reasons. It is currently the album I'm playing most and finding most interesting. I was one that had a really hard time warming up to this album in totality. I also used to bemoan the absence of gems like Sad, In The Moonlight, and Education. I still think these songs could have fit into the album, but as I've come to appreciate Binaural for what it is (instead of disliking it for what it isn't) I've found a great admiration for what is there.
Sleight of Hand is the single best song PJ has ever written. Nothing As It Seems is wonderful. I love Breakerfall, Of The Girl, and Rival. Evacuation and God's Dice used to be two of my most hated PJ songs. I have come full circle on Evacuation and I truly enjoy it now. God's Dice is pretty rad too. Then there is Insignificance, Grievance, and Parting Ways. All very strong songs. Thin Air is forgettable, but when I do listen to it I don't hate it at all. Light Years has never been a favorite of mine. I find it pretty boring, but it isn't terrible, and I occasionally almost think I could like it. (I really wish Sad was in its place.) Soon Forget is a stupid song and should never have been on any album, but I can't complain too much about one pure piece of shit making the track list. (Education should've been in this spot.)
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Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #3: Yield
Soon Forget and I'm Open are alright.
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The airy, experimental, new age fuck-it attitude embodied by I'm Open is one of the (many) things that makes No Code so interesting. The fact that they felt free enough (partially thanks to Jack, who co-wrote) to include a track like that speaks directly to their headspace as a band at the time. That headspace allowed for a certain relaxation, which one could say was needed after Ten-Vs-Vitalogy.
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