Rank the Best Kanye Singles...

[Mike]

No No, I want them all to perform Kanye's songs together.

[William Bloke]

Pretty awesome speech.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... h-20150831

He anointed himself the divine leader of the millennials that night, and I am proud to follow him

This "millennials" thing pisses me right off. It's Gen Y, nothing else. I read someone post 'Gen Y' was a "placeholder name" or some such bullshit. WTF? Total crap. Typical entitled Gen Y opinion there: we'll-not-commit-too-anything-we-are-entitled-to-a-placeholder-generation-name-until-we-just-randomly-change-our-minds shit.

"Millennials" are those kids being born now, not before.

On topic, I can't stand Kanye usually but I do enjoy his stream-of-consciousness consistency. He says whatever the fuck he wants, and I can't help but somewhat grudgingly respect that. I also can't imagine the ludicrous level of celebrity and attention he has to deal with (and actively encourages I guess). To me that would be an absolute living hell and have no idea how anyone could put up with it.

And really not much of a fan of the tunes either, although Goldigger is cool. I have tried to go through Lament's top 20-odd but got distracted at about 4 and 1/2 and haven't gone back to it yet.

But I do enjoy this thread.

[BurtReynolds]

i never understood the generational titles, or where I fit in. I think I was too young for generation X, but too old for Y. Is there an age limit?

[BigRedLedbetter]

i never understood the generational titles, or where I fit in. I think I was too young for generation X, but too old for Y. Is there an age limit?

Gen X or GTFO

[William Bloke]

Burt - you feel like a Gen-Xer, if that helps.

[LoathedVermin72]

I think we've already had this discussion a few times on RM, but once again:

Generation X: the generation born after that of the baby boomers (roughly from the early 1960s to mid 1970s), often perceived to be disaffected and directionless.

Millennials: a person reaching young adulthood around the year 2000; a Generation Yer. There are no precise dates when the generation starts and ends. Researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s.

So if you were born between 1975 and 1980, you're in a bit of a gray area.

[BurtReynolds]

Burt - you feel like a Gen-Xer, if that helps.

[BurtReynolds]

Speaking of generations, you ever feel like there was this giant leap between the 70s, 80s, and 90s, yet the leap from 90s/00/10s is much less noticeable? With the internet and the lessened influences of gatekeepers, I don't think you have those big lurching jumps in fashion and stuff anymore. Its kind of "everything all the time" now.

I dunno maybe its just me.

[William Bloke]

I think we've already had this discussion a few times on RM, but once again:

Generation X: the generation born after that of the baby boomers (roughly from the early 1960s to mid 1970s), often perceived to be disaffected and directionless.

Millennials: a person reaching young adulthood around the year 2000; a Generation Yer. There are no precise dates when the generation starts and ends. Researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s.

So if you were born between 1975 and 1980, you're in a bit of a gray area.

What are they - Millennials or Gen Yers? Please select only one option.

[LoathedVermin72]

Speaking of generations, you ever feel like there was this giant leap between the 70s, 80s, and 90s, yet the leap from 90s/00/10s is much less noticeable? With the internet and the lessened influences of gatekeepers, I don't think you have those big lurching jumps in fashion and stuff anymore. Its kind of "everything all the time" now.

I dunno maybe its just me.

I feel like that until I go back and watch a movie or TV show made during the '90s or '00s. Then I see how noticeable the difference really was.

[LoathedVermin72]

I think we've already had this discussion a few times on RM, but once again:

Generation X: the generation born after that of the baby boomers (roughly from the early 1960s to mid 1970s), often perceived to be disaffected and directionless.

Millennials: a person reaching young adulthood around the year 2000; a Generation Yer. There are no precise dates when the generation starts and ends. Researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s.

So if you were born between 1975 and 1980, you're in a bit of a gray area.

What are they - Millennials or Gen Yers? Please select only one option.

Then it's Millennials. Accept it, Varis.

[E.H. Ruddock]

No mid 70s would be 1974-76. Right chud?

[William Bloke]

Speaking of generations, you ever feel like there was this giant leap between the 70s, 80s, and 90s, yet the leap from 90s/00/10s is much less noticeable? With the internet and the lessened influences of gatekeepers, I don't think you have those big lurching jumps in fashion and stuff anymore. Its kind of "everything all the time" now.

I dunno maybe its just me.

I feel like that until I go back and watch a movie or TV show made during the '90s or '00s. Then I see how noticeable the difference really was.

Surely a lot of what you are noticing here though is fully related to the same computer and technology advances - that is, movies really just started to look better, rather than societal differences. The words and ideas didn't change that much, but the presentation of them did.

[LoathedVermin72]

Let's rename it Generation Ye

[BurtReynolds]

Speaking of generations, you ever feel like there was this giant leap between the 70s, 80s, and 90s, yet the leap from 90s/00/10s is much less noticeable? With the internet and the lessened influences of gatekeepers, I don't think you have those big lurching jumps in fashion and stuff anymore. Its kind of "everything all the time" now.

I dunno maybe its just me.

I feel like that until I go back and watch a movie or TV show made during the '90s or '00s. Then I see how noticeable the difference really was.

There is definitely change, but it seems like a much slower or more gradual progression. Plus, I see younger people walking around wearing stuff that wouldn't stand out in 1993. But then again this is Washington.

its probably timing too. there was a lot of stuff going on right at the beginning and end of the 80s that made the three decades really stand out from each other. Disco was burning out around the same time punk, metal and new wave were taking off, all around the start of the 80s. Then of course the whole grunge thing and the ironic generation x'ers in the early nineties.

[William Bloke]

I think we've already had this discussion a few times on RM, but once again:

Generation X: the generation born after that of the baby boomers (roughly from the early 1960s to mid 1970s), often perceived to be disaffected and directionless.

Millennials: a person reaching young adulthood around the year 2000; a Generation Yer. There are no precise dates when the generation starts and ends. Researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s.

So if you were born between 1975 and 1980, you're in a bit of a gray area.

What are they - Millennials or Gen Yers? Please select only one option.

Then it's Millennials. Accept it, Varis.

Why do you guys get 2 names and a choice though?

[William Bloke]

Let's rename it Generation Ye

[LoathedVermin72]

Speaking of generations, you ever feel like there was this giant leap between the 70s, 80s, and 90s, yet the leap from 90s/00/10s is much less noticeable? With the internet and the lessened influences of gatekeepers, I don't think you have those big lurching jumps in fashion and stuff anymore. Its kind of "everything all the time" now.

I dunno maybe its just me.

I feel like that until I go back and watch a movie or TV show made during the '90s or '00s. Then I see how noticeable the difference really was.

Surely a lot of what you are noticing here though is fully related to the same computer and technology advances - that is, movies really just started to look better, rather than societal differences. The words and ideas didn't change that much, but the presentation of them did.

1. Movies did not start to look better. Quite the opposite.

2. I was referring mostly to fashion. But you're right; I don't think social norms jumped as drastically as they did from the '60s to the '70s to the '80s.

[LoathedVermin72]

I think we've already had this discussion a few times on RM, but once again:

Generation X: the generation born after that of the baby boomers (roughly from the early 1960s to mid 1970s), often perceived to be disaffected and directionless.

Millennials: a person reaching young adulthood around the year 2000; a Generation Yer. There are no precise dates when the generation starts and ends. Researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s.

So if you were born between 1975 and 1980, you're in a bit of a gray area.

What are they - Millennials or Gen Yers? Please select only one option.

Then it's Millennials. Accept it, Varis.

Why do you guys get 2 names and a choice though?

we special

[E.H. Ruddock]

This is hopeless