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2016 Republican candidates rally around Ky. clerk Kim Davis
Washington (CNN) -- Republican presidential candidates rallied around the Kentucky clerk taken into custody Thursday for not issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
Kim Davis, the Rowan County clerk, declined to heed a U.S. Supreme Court order legalizing same-sex marriage, so on Thursday a federal judge held her in contempt and remanded her to custody.
Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul said the move would set a bad precedent.
"I think it's absurd to put someone in jail for exercising their religious liberty," he said on CNN shortly after the decision. "I think it's a real mistake and even those on the other side of the issue, I think it sets their movement back."
Paul said forcing conservative Christians to issue marriage licensees to same-sex couples is going to backfire.
"What's going to happen is it's going to harden people's resolve on this issue," he said. "I think what's going to happen is that state and localities are just going to opt out of the marriage business."
Paul suggested compromises that would allow Davis to refrain from putting her signature on the license. The process could involve a notary public who does not object to the law.
"This is a really the problem when we decide to get involved in a situation that has always through the history of our country been a local issue," he said.
Other presidential candidates weighed in on the news.
"Kim Davis in federal custody removes all doubts about the criminalization of Christianity in this country. We must defend #ReligiousLiberty!" tweeted former Gov. Mike Huckabee.
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal also defended what he called Davis' religious freedom.
"I don't think anyone should have to choose between following their conscience and religious beliefs and giving up their job and facing financial sanctions. I think it's wrong to force Christian individuals or business owners," he told the Huffington Post. "We are seeing government today discriminate against whether it's clerks, florists, musicians or others. I think that's wrong. I think you should be able to keep your job and follow your conscience."
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker discussed Davis's decision Thursday on the Laura Ingraham Show.
"In the end, this is the balance that you gotta have to have in America, between the laws that are out there, but ultimately ensuring that the Constitution is upheld," he said. "I read that the Constitution is very clear that people have freedom of religion -- you have the freedom to practice religious beliefs out there, it's a fundamental right."
Washington (CNN) -- Republican presidential candidates rallied around the Kentucky clerk taken into custody Thursday for not issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
Kim Davis, the Rowan County clerk, declined to heed a U.S. Supreme Court order legalizing same-sex marriage, so on Thursday a federal judge held her in contempt and remanded her to custody.
Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul said the move would set a bad precedent.
"I think it's absurd to put someone in jail for exercising their religious liberty," he said on CNN shortly after the decision. "I think it's a real mistake and even those on the other side of the issue, I think it sets their movement back."
Paul said forcing conservative Christians to issue marriage licensees to same-sex couples is going to backfire.
"What's going to happen is it's going to harden people's resolve on this issue," he said. "I think what's going to happen is that state and localities are just going to opt out of the marriage business."
Paul suggested compromises that would allow Davis to refrain from putting her signature on the license. The process could involve a notary public who does not object to the law.
"This is a really the problem when we decide to get involved in a situation that has always through the history of our country been a local issue," he said.
Other presidential candidates weighed in on the news.
"Kim Davis in federal custody removes all doubts about the criminalization of Christianity in this country. We must defend #ReligiousLiberty!" tweeted former Gov. Mike Huckabee.
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal also defended what he called Davis' religious freedom.
"I don't think anyone should have to choose between following their conscience and religious beliefs and giving up their job and facing financial sanctions. I think it's wrong to force Christian individuals or business owners," he told the Huffington Post. "We are seeing government today discriminate against whether it's clerks, florists, musicians or others. I think that's wrong. I think you should be able to keep your job and follow your conscience."
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker discussed Davis's decision Thursday on the Laura Ingraham Show.
"In the end, this is the balance that you gotta have to have in America, between the laws that are out there, but ultimately ensuring that the Constitution is upheld," he said. "I read that the Constitution is very clear that people have freedom of religion -- you have the freedom to practice religious beliefs out there, it's a fundamental right."
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Way to prove you have no understanding of how a real-world job works, dummies.
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Jesus fucking christ.
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I love it when religious fundamentalist claim discrimination. It's the most hilarious thing ever. And I'm not being hyperbolic.
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attack on Christianity is total LOL.
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I miss the echo code.
The next law will be the all we have to married some one of that same sex if not we are going to jail...
Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
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Also, that crazy woman isn't the only problem still out there.
Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
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Clerk Rejects Proposal to Let Deputies Issue Marriage Licenses
ASHLAND, Ky. — A defiant county clerk rejected a proposal that would have allowed her deputies to grant same-sex marriage licenses, hours after she was sent to jail by a federal judge for disobeying a court order.
Through her lawyer, the clerk, Kim Davis of Rowan County, said she would not agree to allow the licenses to be issued under her authority as county clerk. Had she consented, the judge would have considered releasing her from custody.
Five of the six deputies told Judge David L. Bunning of Federal District Court that they would issue the licenses, though some of them said they would do so reluctantly. The lone holdout was Ms. Davis’s son, Nathan.
Ms. Davis had argued that the Supreme Court order that she issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples infringed upon her religious beliefs and liberties. But after a hearing, Judge Bunning said that “her good faith belief is simply not a viable defense,” and ordered Ms. Davis to jail.
“The court cannot condone the willful disobedience of its lawfully issued order,” said Judge Bunning, who was appointed by President George W. Bush. “If you give people the opportunity to choose which orders they follow, that’s what potentially causes problems.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/ki ... riage.html
ASHLAND, Ky. — A defiant county clerk rejected a proposal that would have allowed her deputies to grant same-sex marriage licenses, hours after she was sent to jail by a federal judge for disobeying a court order.
Through her lawyer, the clerk, Kim Davis of Rowan County, said she would not agree to allow the licenses to be issued under her authority as county clerk. Had she consented, the judge would have considered releasing her from custody.
Five of the six deputies told Judge David L. Bunning of Federal District Court that they would issue the licenses, though some of them said they would do so reluctantly. The lone holdout was Ms. Davis’s son, Nathan.
Ms. Davis had argued that the Supreme Court order that she issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples infringed upon her religious beliefs and liberties. But after a hearing, Judge Bunning said that “her good faith belief is simply not a viable defense,” and ordered Ms. Davis to jail.
“The court cannot condone the willful disobedience of its lawfully issued order,” said Judge Bunning, who was appointed by President George W. Bush. “If you give people the opportunity to choose which orders they follow, that’s what potentially causes problems.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/ki ... riage.html
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This woman is batshit fucking crazy. I get so angered when i think about her.
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BurtReynolds wrote:what about God's law!?
Stone her to death! Im so for that.
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Facebook comment:
this woman was right.How can u support homosexuality.I think people are getting lost.if u have too much sperms in your mind u tend to lose control of everything.The snake chose naked Eve instead of naked Adam.God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.Homosexuality is a form of madness.Those things*homosexuals *are worse than dogs and pigs
this woman was right.How can u support homosexuality.I think people are getting lost.if u have too much sperms in your mind u tend to lose control of everything.The snake chose naked Eve instead of naked Adam.God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.Homosexuality is a form of madness.Those things*homosexuals *are worse than dogs and pigs
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Apparently they will be issuing licenses anyway.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /71635794/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /71635794/
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I actually think the clerks that work under her are bigger cowards than her. She's an idiot, a bigot and a rube, but she's at least backing her decision. Those deputy clerks could simply sign off on them, and it's not like they'd be fired. She couldn't physically stop them.
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I want a pet pig nowBurtReynolds wrote:whats so bad about dogs and pigs?
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:I want a pet pig nowBurtReynolds wrote:whats so bad about dogs and pigs?
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It's a riot that her supporters (and the clerk herself) are screaming "First amendment! Freedom of religion!" when prohibition on state establishment of religion comes first. Reading comprehension, people!
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