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jwfocker wrote:Solid game 2. He looked a lot more comfortable. Showed some great arm talent with a couple good deep shots. I think the first half of the season will be up and down with a good game followed by a bad game. rookies struggle with consistency. I think by the end of the season we will notice his progression and see him play very well.
Supposing that Winston does play well, (only needs two more wins to improve last season's record), Glennon could become pretty valuable trade bait, right? He's got a good arm and if a team with a decent O line needs a QB, he could be a viable option.
say like the cowboys?
Heh. Yeah. I was thinking more along the lines of trading him in the offseason to someone like the Bears, who hate Cutler, or another team that is thinking of drafting a QB in the 2nd-5th rounds.

My boss was talking about this with me because we figured the following teams will need or already do need a QB in the next couple of years:

Broncos
Bears
Jets
Saints
49ers (maybe)
Giants
Texans
Browns
Cowboys (depending on how healthy Romo can stay)
Redskins
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
jwfocker wrote:
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jwfocker wrote:Solid game 2. He looked a lot more comfortable. Showed some great arm talent with a couple good deep shots. I think the first half of the season will be up and down with a good game followed by a bad game. rookies struggle with consistency. I think by the end of the season we will notice his progression and see him play very well.
Supposing that Winston does play well, (only needs two more wins to improve last season's record), Glennon could become pretty valuable trade bait, right? He's got a good arm and if a team with a decent O line needs a QB, he could be a viable option.
say like the cowboys?
Heh. Yeah. I was thinking more along the lines of trading him in the offseason to someone like the Bears, who hate Cutler, or another team that is thinking of drafting a QB in the 2nd-5th rounds.

My boss was talking about this with me because we figured the following teams will need or already do need a QB in the next couple of years:

Broncos
Bears
Jets
Saints
49ers (maybe)
Giants
Texans
Browns
Cowboys (depending on how healthy Romo can stay)
Redskins

Oh yeah I agree. We're about to see a lot of turnover in the league at the QB position. So many teams have aging players at that position. It's going to be very interesting.
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hopefully if Jameis is going to be good to go and not an injury risk then its silly not to get somehting for glennon if he has value, but i wonder if anyone does value him, i really cant see Lovie or Licht turning down a 3rd round pick for glennon this past year with the huge need at Oline just to keep a good back up QB, so i really wonder if the only ones thinking there is a trade market for glennon are us Buc fans
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:hopefully if Jameis is going to be good to go and not an injury risk then its silly not to get somehting for glennon if he has value, but i wonder if anyone does value him, i really cant see Lovie or Licht turning down a 3rd round pick for glennon this past year with the huge need at Oline just to keep a good back up QB, so i really wonder if the only ones thinking there is a trade market for glennon are us Buc fans

I think that may be the more logical situation. probably were offered something like a 6th round pick so far.
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jwfocker wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:hopefully if Jameis is going to be good to go and not an injury risk then its silly not to get somehting for glennon if he has value, but i wonder if anyone does value him, i really cant see Lovie or Licht turning down a 3rd round pick for glennon this past year with the huge need at Oline just to keep a good back up QB, so i really wonder if the only ones thinking there is a trade market for glennon are us Buc fans

I think that may be the more logical situation. probably were offered something like a 6th round pick so far.
that would be my guess also and he is way more valuable to us then a 6th round pick. but if someone was desperate or missed out on the QB they want in the first round and are willing to give up a 2nd or 3rd rounder then i think it needs to be done, hopefully to be used on OL
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Who the fuck is our kicker?
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:Who the fuck is our kicker?
he was a Rockstar after that 58 yard kick early in the game, but the worst kicker in the league now lol. im not positive but i kinda think the bucs traded for him, im blanking on the name but they traded the TE that they traded to the Pats a few years ago and resigned this off season after they cut him.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:Who the fuck is our kicker?

someone not worth knowing. Tampa had some pluses in that awful loss. Can't understand all the drops though. Winston did well. Offensive line did well in pass protection. Everything else was pretty shitty.
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jwfocker wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Who the fuck is our kicker?

someone not worth knowing. Tampa had some pluses in that awful loss. Can't understand all the drops though. Winston did well. Offensive line did well in pass protection. Everything else was pretty shitty.
Jameis still had a few bad throws but yeah, he definitely played well yesterday, and even though the line played better he still got rocked a few times but hung in there and made throws.
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jwfocker wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Who the fuck is our kicker?

someone not worth knowing. Tampa had some pluses in that awful loss. Can't understand all the drops though. Winston did well. Offensive line did well in pass protection. Everything else was pretty shitty.
Yeah i thought he looked decent. But man, That kicker cost them 10 points. Yikes.
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
jwfocker wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Who the fuck is our kicker?

someone not worth knowing. Tampa had some pluses in that awful loss. Can't understand all the drops though. Winston did well. Offensive line did well in pass protection. Everything else was pretty shitty.
Jameis still had a few bad throws but yeah, he definitely played well yesterday, and even though the line played better he still got rocked a few times but hung in there and made throws.

I had to listen to it on the radio - had a long drive on Sunday. It would be Winston with a deep throw - caught uh no dropped. Rinse. Repeat. Frustrating.
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But anyway Tampa may have to pass to open up the run cuz teams look like they are shutting the running game down and forcing Tampa into 3rd and long passing situations. Which is brutal for any QB but especially for a rookie.
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That dixon touchdown for Carolina is a great summary of the luck of the buccaneers
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:That dixon touchdown for Carolina is a great summary of the luck of the buccaneers
do you have any field goal experience, ruddo?
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doug rr wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:That dixon touchdown for Carolina is a great summary of the luck of the buccaneers
do you have any field goal experience, ruddo?
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Green Habit wrote:
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:That dixon touchdown for Carolina is a great summary of the luck of the buccaneers
do you have any field goal experience, ruddo?
So they resigned Barth today.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
doug rr wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:That dixon touchdown for Carolina is a great summary of the luck of the buccaneers
do you have any field goal experience, ruddo?
So they resigned Barth today.
:ohyeah!:
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
doug rr wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:That dixon touchdown for Carolina is a great summary of the luck of the buccaneers
do you have any field goal experience, ruddo?
So they resigned Barth today.
:ohyeah!:
yeah, but two games too late...
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I don't understand how Barth is so dreadful on kickoffs, though. I mean, even the altitude of Denver couldn't help him out...
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