MLB

Discuss your hatred for the Yankees here.
Post Reply
User avatar
numbers
Mind Your Tanners
Posts: 9200
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:44 pm
Location: Franklin, MA

Re: MLB

Post by numbers »

I think he is, and he's a good fit for that team.
User avatar
philpritchard
Rank This Poster
Posts: 4155
Joined: Thu January 03, 2013 3:45 pm

Re: MLB

Post by philpritchard »

numbers wrote:I think he is, and he's a good fit for that team.
You shouldn't believe that based on his win-loss record, is all I'm saying.
User avatar
verb_to_trust
Gone
Posts: 24014
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:53 pm
Location: Illinois

Re: MLB

Post by verb_to_trust »

Dustys best player on the Nats is white. Thats gonna be awkward.
Dick/Balls
User avatar
Chris_H_2
10Club Complaint Department
Posts: 15615
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 9:55 pm
Location: An office full of assholes

Re: MLB

Post by Chris_H_2 »

guys, a ned yost-managed team won the world series this year. even better: matt williams was the nl manager of the year last year.
User avatar
Monkey_Driven
The Master
Posts: 28134
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:36 pm
Location: Mushroom Kingdom

Re: MLB

Post by Monkey_Driven »

Chris_H_2 wrote:guys, a ned yost-managed team won the world series this year. even better: matt williams was the nl manager of the year last year.
Kind of makes you question your life, doesn't it?
User avatar
numbers
Mind Your Tanners
Posts: 9200
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:44 pm
Location: Franklin, MA

Re: MLB

Post by numbers »

I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
User avatar
Monkey_Driven
The Master
Posts: 28134
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:36 pm
Location: Mushroom Kingdom

Re: MLB

Post by Monkey_Driven »

numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
Because his name is Dusty and he does not wear a cowboy hat.
User avatar
verb_to_trust
Gone
Posts: 24014
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:53 pm
Location: Illinois

Re: MLB

Post by verb_to_trust »

No its because he sucks. Find a reds giants or cubs fan who thinks this is a good hire. They dont exist.
Dick/Balls
User avatar
MadTIGERmaN
AnalLog
Posts: 1646
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 7:12 am
Location: The Jungle

Re: MLB

Post by MadTIGERmaN »

Monkey_Driven wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
Because his name is Dusty and he does not wear a cowboy hat.
yet he wears wrist-bands in the dugout as a manager?
Kaius
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 11136
Joined: Fri November 15, 2013 6:14 am

Re: MLB

Post by Kaius »

Team wristbands.
User avatar
Monkey_Driven
The Master
Posts: 28134
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:36 pm
Location: Mushroom Kingdom

Re: MLB

Post by Monkey_Driven »

Kaius wrote:Team wristbands.
He has sweaty forearms.
User avatar
philpritchard
Rank This Poster
Posts: 4155
Joined: Thu January 03, 2013 3:45 pm

Re: MLB

Post by philpritchard »

numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.
User avatar
numbers
Mind Your Tanners
Posts: 9200
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:44 pm
Location: Franklin, MA

Re: MLB

Post by numbers »

philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.
I just feel like the guy has a track record of success. I dont watch enough of his games to know his tactical skills well(I am aware of the complaints of Cubs fans about overworking pitchers,) but the guy has won in three different places, in different eras. He has to be doing something right.
User avatar
4/5
See you in another life, brother
Posts: 6989
Joined: Thu December 20, 2012 4:45 pm

Re: MLB

Post by 4/5 »

I remember that Don Mattingly was mocked pretty strongly early on with the Dodgers, did he ever improve or did the Marlins just hire another terrible manager?
"I want to see the whole picture--as nearly as I can. I don't want to put on the blinders of 'good and bad,' and limit my vision."-- In Dubious Battle

User avatar
@SkitchP
RM Elitist
Posts: 9995
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 8:43 pm

Re: MLB

Post by @SkitchP »

philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.

and that's the thing. A guy like Dusty Baker on a team of ready made veterans could be very successful, and given the money invested in that team, A clubhouse leader like he (appears to be at least) is may be a better fit for a team like that. Much like Jim Leyland in Detroit.
dimejinky99 wrote: Hang on I check on my Grindr
User avatar
Norah
Poster of the Year
Posts: 37476
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:04 pm
Location: September 2020 Poster of the Month

Re: MLB

Post by Norah »

@SkitchP wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.

and that's the thing. A guy like Dusty Baker on a team of ready made veterans could be very successful, and given the money invested in that team, A clubhouse leader like he (appears to be at least) is may be a better fit for a team like that. Much like Jim Leyland in Detroit.
I thought I read something from a Cubs writer somewhere that said he wasn't that great of a clubhouse guy.
User avatar
verb_to_trust
Gone
Posts: 24014
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 10:53 pm
Location: Illinois

Re: MLB

Post by verb_to_trust »

He isnt
Dick/Balls
User avatar
@SkitchP
RM Elitist
Posts: 9995
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 8:43 pm

Re: MLB

Post by @SkitchP »

cutuphalfdead wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.

and that's the thing. A guy like Dusty Baker on a team of ready made veterans could be very successful, and given the money invested in that team, A clubhouse leader like he (appears to be at least) is may be a better fit for a team like that. Much like Jim Leyland in Detroit.
I thought I read something from a Cubs writer somewhere that said he wasn't that great of a clubhouse guy.

I bet he wears out his welcome quick, but he has had success to a degree.
dimejinky99 wrote: Hang on I check on my Grindr
User avatar
Norah
Poster of the Year
Posts: 37476
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:04 pm
Location: September 2020 Poster of the Month

Re: MLB

Post by Norah »

@SkitchP wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.

and that's the thing. A guy like Dusty Baker on a team of ready made veterans could be very successful, and given the money invested in that team, A clubhouse leader like he (appears to be at least) is may be a better fit for a team like that. Much like Jim Leyland in Detroit.
I thought I read something from a Cubs writer somewhere that said he wasn't that great of a clubhouse guy.

I bet he wears out his welcome quick, but he has had success to a degree.
Matt Williams had success to a degree.
User avatar
numbers
Mind Your Tanners
Posts: 9200
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:44 pm
Location: Franklin, MA

Re: MLB

Post by numbers »

cutuphalfdead wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I just don't get why people act like Dusty Baker is a joke. The guy has had good runs with three different team.
The thing we can't know about a manager is how they are as a leader and managing personalities and all that intangible stuff. So it's very possible that Baker is really good at, for example, getting the most out of his players and keeping them loose and focused. Maybe... at this point, anyway, it's impossible to say.

What we do know about Baker is that he's a terrible tactical manager who has a reputation for overworking pitchers.

and that's the thing. A guy like Dusty Baker on a team of ready made veterans could be very successful, and given the money invested in that team, A clubhouse leader like he (appears to be at least) is may be a better fit for a team like that. Much like Jim Leyland in Detroit.
I thought I read something from a Cubs writer somewhere that said he wasn't that great of a clubhouse guy.

I bet he wears out his welcome quick, but he has had success to a degree.
Matt Williams had success to a degree.
Those two are not comparable. Williams managed one team for two years and never won a playoff series. Baker has taken three different teams to the playoffs, and went to the LCS with two of them and the WS with one.
Post Reply