are they? Seems like a girl like that wouldn't need to fake them.turned2black wrote:Aren't her boobs fake? God wouldn't need fake boobs.BigRedLedbetter wrote:This might actually be the right answer.BurtReynolds wrote:wrong
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The "spiritual version" of the Quran's creation story is exactly that, a version. The Quran, to my knowledge, does not say that its words were not written down, does not provide the dates of Mohammad's life, etc. To my knowledge, once you stray from the Quran, you stray from the only source of "truth" in Islam, since it is the only book that is believed (by its adherents, of course) to be directly communicated, word for word, from God. The hadiths are similar to the bible, they were written by others and through other's eyes, interpretations, perceptions, and direction. As such, showing that the oldest Quran was written sometime either before, during, or after Mohammad's proposed life span does zilch to discredit the book. It may somewhat discredit the historical accuracy of the "spiritual version" of events, but not the Quran itself. The only way to absolutely scientifically discredit the Quran is to prove the years that Mohammad was alive and prove that a Quran exists that predates him, since the Quran does state that Mohammad received the words. Absent that, you don't have much to stand on, and anyone who claims a scientific premise for their rejection of religion should understand that article titles which are not supported by the data contained in the article are not very scientific at all (I'm not directing that at any specific poster, just making a comment).McParadigm wrote:The spiritual version of the Quran's creation story has the various passages taking the last few decades of his life to express, and not being compiled into a codex until after he died. So, no, it isnt a "gotcha" moment. It just makes that accepted timeline that much less likely to be correct. If anything, it's probably more akin to the sourcing of the pericope adulterae...just another reminder that religious history is more religion than history.track11 wrote:LOL at the title, right?turned2black wrote:LOL.
Carbon dating suggests ‘world’s oldest’ Koran could be older than the Prophet Muhammad
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/carbon- ... -muhammad/
"Carbon dating of a fragment from a Koran stored at a Birmingham library suggests that the book was produced between 568 and 645 A.D., said scientists at the University of Oxford..."
"Islamic scholars generally believe Muhammad lived between 570 and 632 A.D."
So, the REAL title of the article should be:
"Although we don't know muhammad's year of birth or death, carbon dating suggests the worlds oldest koran could have been produced before, during, or after muhammad's proposed life span."
Not quite the same ring, huh?
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how dare you!?! blasphemer!turned2black wrote:Aren't her boobs fake? God wouldn't need fake boobs.BigRedLedbetter wrote:This might actually be the right answer.BurtReynolds wrote:wrong
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"Holy" books do not require a date to be in line for discreditation. Their contents are more than enough.track11 wrote:does zilch to discredit the book.
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The Argonaut wrote:how dare you!?! blasphemer!turned2black wrote:Aren't her boobs fake? God wouldn't need fake boobs.BigRedLedbetter wrote:This might actually be the right answer.BurtReynolds wrote:wrong
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I still believe.bada wrote:The Argonaut wrote:how dare you!?! blasphemer!turned2black wrote:Aren't her boobs fake? God wouldn't need fake boobs.BigRedLedbetter wrote:This might actually be the right answer.BurtReynolds wrote:wrong
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I can find nothing even marginally credible or even in legible English. link?bada wrote:The Argonaut wrote:how dare you!?! blasphemer!turned2black wrote:Aren't her boobs fake? God wouldn't need fake boobs.BigRedLedbetter wrote:This might actually be the right answer.BurtReynolds wrote:wrong
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Mormon Church Says Same-sex Couples are Apostates and Bars Children of Same-Sex Couples From Baptism, Blessings
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mor ... gs-n458416
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mor ... gs-n458416
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So much hate...
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I don't know if this is SFW so spoiler.The Argonaut wrote:I can find nothing even marginally credible or even in legible English. link?bada wrote:The Argonaut wrote:how dare you!?! blasphemer!turned2black wrote:Aren't her boobs fake? God wouldn't need fake boobs.BigRedLedbetter wrote:This might actually be the right answer.BurtReynolds wrote:wrong
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LOL. Kentucky gotta Kentucky.
http://www.wdrb.com/story/35761799/gov- ... -the-bible
Hypothetically, I don't actually have a problem with this. It's an elective and studying the Bible's cultural impact is legitimate.
The problem is this is Kentucky and these classes will undoubtedly be administered and controlled by redneck evangelicals on school boards.
http://www.wdrb.com/story/35761799/gov- ... -the-bible
Hypothetically, I don't actually have a problem with this. It's an elective and studying the Bible's cultural impact is legitimate.
The problem is this is Kentucky and these classes will undoubtedly be administered and controlled by redneck evangelicals on school boards.
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Just the Catholic Church doing its usual thing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/28/worl ... abuse.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/28/worl ... abuse.html
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Good read. The Catholic Church never fails to amaze me.
How Cardinal Pell Rose to Power, Trailed by a Cloud of Scandal
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/30/worl ... hurch.html
How Cardinal Pell Rose to Power, Trailed by a Cloud of Scandal
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/30/worl ... hurch.html
The investigators found abuses in a variety of faiths and organizations, but the conclusions about the Catholic Church were numerous and widespread. There were accusations against priests, brothers and other church workers at more than 1,000 church institutions from more than 4,400 alleged victims.
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From The Dallas Morning News as reported elsewhere:
https://www.dallasnews.com/life/faith/2 ... im-jong-unDallas megachurch pastor Robert Jeffress, one of President Donald Trump's evangelical advisers who preached the morning of his inauguration, has released a statement saying the president has the moral authority to take out North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
"When it comes to how we should deal with evil doers, the Bible, in the book of Romans, is very clear: God has endowed rulers full power to use whatever means necessary - including war - to stop evil," Jeffress said."In the case of North Korea, God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un."
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As people are less and less churched, this sort of thing may be more necessary.run2death wrote:LOL. Kentucky gotta Kentucky.
http://www.wdrb.com/story/35761799/gov- ... -the-bible
Hypothetically, I don't actually have a problem with this. It's an elective and studying the Bible's cultural impact is legitimate.
The problem is this is Kentucky and these classes will undoubtedly be administered and controlled by redneck evangelicals on school boards.
I don't know if I trust high schools to get this right, even beyond your concern about proselytization.
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I saw that this morning and wanted to make a "America..why won't you just ban the fucking church?" topic.Biff Pocoroba wrote:From The Dallas Morning News as reported elsewhere:
https://www.dallasnews.com/life/faith/2 ... im-jong-unDallas megachurch pastor Robert Jeffress, one of President Donald Trump's evangelical advisers who preached the morning of his inauguration, has released a statement saying the president has the moral authority to take out North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
"When it comes to how we should deal with evil doers, the Bible, in the book of Romans, is very clear: God has endowed rulers full power to use whatever means necessary - including war - to stop evil," Jeffress said."In the case of North Korea, God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un."
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Texas-based evangelist with ties to President Donald Trump came under fire this week after video re-surfaced of her telling followers that they don't need to get a flu shot because "Jesus himself gave us the flu shot."
Gloria Copeland, a member of the president's faith advisory council, posted the video last Wednesday, but it began to gain traction this week after a number watch groups re-posted it on social-media channels.
"Listen, partners, we don't have a flu season," Copeland, 75, said in a Facebook video posted Jan. 31. "We've got a duck season, a deer season, but we don't have a flu season."
"And don't receive it when somebody threatens you with, 'Everybody is getting the flu,'" she added. "We've already had our shot. He bore our sicknesses and carried our diseases. That's what we stand on."
Copeland, a co-founder the Fort Worth, Texas-based Kenneth Copeland Ministries, went on to pray for those who were already displaying flu-like symptoms, telling them to protect themselves by declaring "I'll never have the flu."
"That's great -- that's the way it's supposed to be," she continued. "Just keep saying that 'I'll never have the flu. I'll never have the flu.' Inoculate yourself with the word of God. Flu, I bind you off the people in the name of Jesus. Jesus himself gave us the flu shot. He redeemed us from the curse of flu."
Gloria Copeland, a member of the president's faith advisory council, posted the video last Wednesday, but it began to gain traction this week after a number watch groups re-posted it on social-media channels.
"Listen, partners, we don't have a flu season," Copeland, 75, said in a Facebook video posted Jan. 31. "We've got a duck season, a deer season, but we don't have a flu season."
"And don't receive it when somebody threatens you with, 'Everybody is getting the flu,'" she added. "We've already had our shot. He bore our sicknesses and carried our diseases. That's what we stand on."
Copeland, a co-founder the Fort Worth, Texas-based Kenneth Copeland Ministries, went on to pray for those who were already displaying flu-like symptoms, telling them to protect themselves by declaring "I'll never have the flu."
"That's great -- that's the way it's supposed to be," she continued. "Just keep saying that 'I'll never have the flu. I'll never have the flu.' Inoculate yourself with the word of God. Flu, I bind you off the people in the name of Jesus. Jesus himself gave us the flu shot. He redeemed us from the curse of flu."


