Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

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So what did you think (DcT edition)?

Best of all the films
8
9%
Better than A New Hope, Empire, the prequels, But not Jedi
2
2%
Better than A New Hope, Jedi, the prequels, but not Empire
6
7%
Better than Empire, Jedi, the Prequels, but not A New Hope
2
2%
Better than A New Hope and the prequels, but not Empire or Jedi
2
2%
Better than Empire and the prequels, but not A New Hope or Jedi
1
1%
Better than Jedi and the prequels, but not a New Hope or Empire
23
26%
As good as Empire, Jedi, and A New Hope, and better than the prequels
15
17%
Better than the prequels, but not the originals
15
17%
As good as some of the prequels
7
8%
As good as all of the prequels
2
2%
Worse than the prequels
5
6%
 
Total votes: 88

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McParadigm wrote:
Strat wrote:I can't wait till McP, chud and LV tear me down after TFA
You appear to be the only person forum-frothing about this movie who is actually, truly a fan of the franchise. As such, you are the only person who can say "I AM GONNA LOVE THE SHIT OUT OF THIS" and for whom I think "he probably will, and I hope he does."
I fucking hate the prequels though....
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Kaius wrote:
stip wrote:I look forward to being able to stand shoulder to shoulder next to strat when we can tell you losers 'I told you so' in a few weeks
I haven't seen a single person actually shit on this movie though. I think you, Strat, and jinky are waging war on your own insecure expectations.
Im just putting on a show, guy.
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Simple Torture wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:No. It's not all that. It's a mess and understandably given its the first and they didn't know where they were going but put up against the rest it's only slightly better than attack of the clones and that's officially the worst of the whole lot.
How dare you try to ruin the joy of A New Hope for us?
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I like to think me and D have a good friendship. I respect him and damn near love him.


However, I just cannot get a handle on his RM posting. Not 1 bit.
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have you been drinking?
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beer #3. What is your drink of choice tonight, homo?
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I didnt mean that at all.
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http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/25/ro ... tom-menace

George Lucas asked Ron Howard to direct The Phantom Menace
“He did, he did,” Howard said in response to whether Lucas approached him about the film. “He didn’t necessarily want to direct them, and he told me that he had talked to [Robert] Zemeckis, he talked to me, he talked to Steven Spielberg. I was the third one he spoke to. They had all said the same thing, ‘George, you should just do it!’”

“Nobody wanted to follow that act, I don’t think, at that point. That was an honor, but it would’ve been just too daunting.”
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/25/ron-howard-george-lucas-star-wars-episode-i-phantom-menace

George Lucas asked Ron Howard to direct The Phantom Menace
“He did, he did,” Howard said in response to whether Lucas approached him about the film. “He didn’t necessarily want to direct them, and he told me that he had talked to [Robert] Zemeckis, he talked to me, he talked to Steven Spielberg. I was the third one he spoke to. They had all said the same thing, ‘George, you should just do it!’”

“Nobody wanted to follow that act, I don’t think, at that point. That was an honor, but it would’ve been just too daunting.”
Oh man. What a different, and presumably better, film it would have been.
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Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/25/ron-howard-george-lucas-star-wars-episode-i-phantom-menace

George Lucas asked Ron Howard to direct The Phantom Menace
“He did, he did,” Howard said in response to whether Lucas approached him about the film. “He didn’t necessarily want to direct them, and he told me that he had talked to [Robert] Zemeckis, he talked to me, he talked to Steven Spielberg. I was the third one he spoke to. They had all said the same thing, ‘George, you should just do it!’”

“Nobody wanted to follow that act, I don’t think, at that point. That was an honor, but it would’ve been just too daunting.”
Oh man. What a different, and presumably better, film it would have been.
Spielberg directed Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, so...
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/25/ron-howard-george-lucas-star-wars-episode-i-phantom-menace

George Lucas asked Ron Howard to direct The Phantom Menace
“He did, he did,” Howard said in response to whether Lucas approached him about the film. “He didn’t necessarily want to direct them, and he told me that he had talked to [Robert] Zemeckis, he talked to me, he talked to Steven Spielberg. I was the third one he spoke to. They had all said the same thing, ‘George, you should just do it!’”

“Nobody wanted to follow that act, I don’t think, at that point. That was an honor, but it would’ve been just too daunting.”
Oh man. What a different, and presumably better, film it would have been.
Spielberg directed Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, so...
Also Lucas still wrote those movies.
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Age depleted Spielberg big time. Or grandfatherhood. I dunno.

But yeah, I can imagine another director having a huge impact on those films. Phantom Menace could have been a decent little-kid movie
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durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/25/ron-howard-george-lucas-star-wars-episode-i-phantom-menace

George Lucas asked Ron Howard to direct The Phantom Menace
“He did, he did,” Howard said in response to whether Lucas approached him about the film. “He didn’t necessarily want to direct them, and he told me that he had talked to [Robert] Zemeckis, he talked to me, he talked to Steven Spielberg. I was the third one he spoke to. They had all said the same thing, ‘George, you should just do it!’”

“Nobody wanted to follow that act, I don’t think, at that point. That was an honor, but it would’ve been just too daunting.”
Oh man. What a different, and presumably better, film it would have been.
Spielberg directed Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, so...
Also Lucas still wrote those movies.
That's what I mean. Lucas still would have written Phantom regardless of who directed it, so I wonder how much better it ultimately would have been.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/25/ron-howard-george-lucas-star-wars-episode-i-phantom-menace

George Lucas asked Ron Howard to direct The Phantom Menace
“He did, he did,” Howard said in response to whether Lucas approached him about the film. “He didn’t necessarily want to direct them, and he told me that he had talked to [Robert] Zemeckis, he talked to me, he talked to Steven Spielberg. I was the third one he spoke to. They had all said the same thing, ‘George, you should just do it!’”

“Nobody wanted to follow that act, I don’t think, at that point. That was an honor, but it would’ve been just too daunting.”
Oh man. What a different, and presumably better, film it would have been.
Spielberg directed Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, so...
Also Lucas still wrote those movies.
By all accounts lucas has absolutely no idea how to get actors to perform. There are decent actors in the film and i imagine any of those directors would have made a better impact.
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Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/25/ron-howard-george-lucas-star-wars-episode-i-phantom-menace

George Lucas asked Ron Howard to direct The Phantom Menace
“He did, he did,” Howard said in response to whether Lucas approached him about the film. “He didn’t necessarily want to direct them, and he told me that he had talked to [Robert] Zemeckis, he talked to me, he talked to Steven Spielberg. I was the third one he spoke to. They had all said the same thing, ‘George, you should just do it!’”

“Nobody wanted to follow that act, I don’t think, at that point. That was an honor, but it would’ve been just too daunting.”
Oh man. What a different, and presumably better, film it would have been.
Spielberg directed Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, so...
Also Lucas still wrote those movies.
By all accounts lucas has absolutely no idea how to get actors to perform. There are decent actors in the film and i imagine any of those directors would have made a better impact.
That's absolutely a fair point.

You also wonder how much of the CGI saturation there would have been. Would another director have had the ability or the vision or the power/desire to circumvent Lucas?
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Strat wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/25/ron-howard-george-lucas-star-wars-episode-i-phantom-menace

George Lucas asked Ron Howard to direct The Phantom Menace
“He did, he did,” Howard said in response to whether Lucas approached him about the film. “He didn’t necessarily want to direct them, and he told me that he had talked to [Robert] Zemeckis, he talked to me, he talked to Steven Spielberg. I was the third one he spoke to. They had all said the same thing, ‘George, you should just do it!’”

“Nobody wanted to follow that act, I don’t think, at that point. That was an honor, but it would’ve been just too daunting.”
Oh man. What a different, and presumably better, film it would have been.
Spielberg directed Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, so...
Also Lucas still wrote those movies.
By all accounts lucas has absolutely no idea how to get actors to perform. There are decent actors in the film and i imagine any of those directors would have made a better impact.
That's absolutely a fair point.

You also wonder how much of the CGI saturation there would have been. Would another director have had the ability or the vision or the power/desire to circumvent Lucas?
Again, Crystal Skull.
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It's pretty hard to argue when the most valid counterpoint is always "Crystal Skull."
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durdencommatyler wrote:It's pretty hard to argue when the most valid counterpoint is always "Crystal Skull."
I don't even mean it in the sense that it's terrible or anything, just that the movie was flooded with CGI and it all seemed to be due to Lucas's influence.
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The cgi in the prequels is a bit much, but if there was decent acting and writing it would have been fine
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stip wrote:The cgi in the prequels is a bit much, but if there was decent acting and writing it would have been fine
This is a good point.
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