10th album rumors and speculation

[Jorge]

Heh heh

[dimejinky99]

BUMP

Can't you just call Glen and ask him...and by that I mean tell us what you already know...or hint at it, like you already do, oh wait...

There was a hint in that? You'd know more than I.

[wilkins]

BUMP

Can't you just call Glen and ask him...and by that I mean tell us what you already know...or hint at it, like you already do, oh wait...

There was a hint in that? You'd know more than I.

I clicked the wrong quote button...

This is getting close. Closer than it was anyways

Can't you just call Glen and ask him...and by that I mean tell us what you already know...or hint at it, like you already do, oh wait...

But dime, you must know something, don't you?

[Strat]

Fun little Op-Ed piece by Paul Westerberg regarding song writing. He is probably my favorite. Thought it'd be a good place to put this as we discuss our favorite approaches by our beloved band pearl jam. Maybe Eddie isn't as good at "simple". Perhaps he is best when he is torturing himself to write a great song. Some genius' are struck by lightning...

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/20 ... mpossible/

My last contribution to The Times was on a dead man. I now try to write about a living art.

Painfully aware of the who-what-when-where hocus-pocus that constitutes the journalistic game, I beg the editors’ pardon because illiteracy is part of my stock-in-trade. I write songs where “orange” rhymes with “gorgeous” and “chin” with “gasoline.”

O.K., and now to explain how it’s done. Well, it’s a little like trying to hit a bottle cap with a wire coat hanger. Every day a songwriter rows out into the deep waters in search of his own personal Loch Ness monster. (Just a matter of time, we insist.) Being a weary subscriber to the old inspiration-perspiration theory, I must say that minus the former, you’ll hit a sweaty dead end every time, yet without this purging of what I call “brain vomit,” you’ll never drain the 99 pieces of hooey before one of pure inspiration writes itself for you.

Many a songwriter, when asked how it’s done, will underestimate the talent he was born with and blow his skill for brandishing it out of proportion. My talent (if that’s what we call it) is never, ever doubting goose bumps.

Neil Young insists that if the dog gets up and leaves, whatever you are writing stinks. There is truth here. Phony blues wailing or an ill-suited style attempt will send my own dog running. Yet when it’s so right it’s scary my four-legged audience is guaranteed (though I must say he’s yet to come up with a decent bridge). No, the goose bumps do not lie.

The pros in Nashville have an altogether different approach, similar to modern blues writers: it’s all in the title. “Blues Is My Business” (business is good), for instance, or “18 Wheels and a Sore Behind.” They may make good songs, but rarely do they make your skin crawl. Nobody gets married to a clever song, let alone falls in love to one.

Quick rules of thumb:

-Not from the hippocampus, not gonna fly on campus.
-Aim for the audience’s pockets and you’ll miss their hearts by a mile.
-Even Beethoven plagiarized Handel.

My own creed is “It’s simple or impossible.” To date I’ve written more than 1,000 impossibles. Note that I didn’t say “impossibilities” — incorrect grammar is highly useful. I would never have written a song called “Dis-satisfied.”


Allen Ginsberg said, “first thought, best thought.” This has helped innumerable times when my mind is spinning out of control with ideas.

So, fittingly, after I first sat down and unflinchingly dashed off several pages on the art of the song, on reading it back, panic set in. I had just stolen the entire whack from a book written by Jimmy Webb! Rushing to the bookcase to confirm my fears, I smiled as I realized the book had been digested, cursed and thrown out.

Egotistical thieves all of us. Or make that “thiefs.”

[E.H. Ruddock]

No news today, team.

[EJ]

What about speculation?

[Jorge]

What about speculation?

I expect some "soaring anthems"

[twoheadedboy]

Possibly a song about water, or waves, possibly washing over rusted signs.

[EJ]

Over/under on album length?

49 minutes

[Jorge]

48 minutes

[pnjguy]

can anyone in the band do a nice falsetto?

[dprival78]

can anyone in the band do a nice falsetto?

ken.

if they'd just give him the chance..

[broken iris]

Don't give in Dime! Anything we learn now will just be fodder for whinging and whining later and the last thing you'll want is to answer a bunch of post about how you said this was "Pink Floyd inspired" or "a return to form" when all we will get is a "logical extension of Backspacer".

[Lament]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that a sound collage type song (a la Push Me, Pull Me or Stupid Mop) makes it onto the record.

But it won't be as good as Push Me, Pull Me.


But that might just be cause Push Me, Pull Me is really good.

[gardenparty]

So Dimes heard this thing already, huh?

[dimejinky99]

Don't give in Dime! Anything we learn now will just be fodder for whinging and whining later and the last thing you'll want is to answer a bunch of post about how you said this was "Pink Floyd inspired" or "a return to form" when all we will get is a "logical extension of Backspacer".

What? Some guy took the piss. I laughed. And this? Somebody posted that Mike said pink floyd. I heard as much as you. Will probably get it a few days before of they use the same distributor here. I'll tell you then.

[harmless]

Fun little Op-Ed piece by Paul Westerberg regarding song writing. He is probably my favorite. Thought it'd be a good place to put this as we discuss our favorite approaches by our beloved band pearl jam. Maybe Eddie isn't as good at "simple". Perhaps he is best when he is torturing himself to write a great song. Some genius' are struck by lightning...

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/20 ... mpossible/

My last contribution to The Times was on a dead man. I now try to write about a living art.

Painfully aware of the who-what-when-where hocus-pocus that constitutes the journalistic game, I beg the editors’ pardon because illiteracy is part of my stock-in-trade. I write songs where “orange” rhymes with “gorgeous” and “chin” with “gasoline.”

O.K., and now to explain how it’s done. Well, it’s a little like trying to hit a bottle cap with a wire coat hanger. Every day a songwriter rows out into the deep waters in search of his own personal Loch Ness monster. (Just a matter of time, we insist.) Being a weary subscriber to the old inspiration-perspiration theory, I must say that minus the former, you’ll hit a sweaty dead end every time, yet without this purging of what I call “brain vomit,” you’ll never drain the 99 pieces of hooey before one of pure inspiration writes itself for you.

Many a songwriter, when asked how it’s done, will underestimate the talent he was born with and blow his skill for brandishing it out of proportion. My talent (if that’s what we call it) is never, ever doubting goose bumps.

Neil Young insists that if the dog gets up and leaves, whatever you are writing stinks. There is truth here. Phony blues wailing or an ill-suited style attempt will send my own dog running. Yet when it’s so right it’s scary my four-legged audience is guaranteed (though I must say he’s yet to come up with a decent bridge). No, the goose bumps do not lie.

The pros in Nashville have an altogether different approach, similar to modern blues writers: it’s all in the title. “Blues Is My Business” (business is good), for instance, or “18 Wheels and a Sore Behind.” They may make good songs, but rarely do they make your skin crawl. Nobody gets married to a clever song, let alone falls in love to one.

Quick rules of thumb:

-Not from the hippocampus, not gonna fly on campus.
-Aim for the audience’s pockets and you’ll miss their hearts by a mile.
-Even Beethoven plagiarized Handel.

My own creed is “It’s simple or impossible.” To date I’ve written more than 1,000 impossibles. Note that I didn’t say “impossibilities” — incorrect grammar is highly useful. I would never have written a song called “Dis-satisfied.”


Allen Ginsberg said, “first thought, best thought.” This has helped innumerable times when my mind is spinning out of control with ideas.

So, fittingly, after I first sat down and unflinchingly dashed off several pages on the art of the song, on reading it back, panic set in. I had just stolen the entire whack from a book written by Jimmy Webb! Rushing to the bookcase to confirm my fears, I smiled as I realized the book had been digested, cursed and thrown out.

Egotistical thieves all of us. Or make that “thiefs.”

I still didn't read this post about songwriting. Any good?

[WtOB?]

It's so slow around here at the moment, guys.

[McParadigm]

I still didn't read this post about songwriting. Any good?

Well, he wrote "Aim for the audience’s pockets and you’ll miss their hearts by a mile" like it was actual advice, and he rhymed hippocampus with campus, so...

[Strat]

PAUL WESTERBERG