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hah. why's that?

i love the new Laura Marling... probably her best yet
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Heathen wrote:lol you don't have to feel bad for us, there's plenty other music for us to enjoy outside of this band

and every fucking album is getting rave reviews, why do people always have to bring that up like they needed to convince themselves they're in the right
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Re: The National | Trouble Will Find Me [20 May]

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Gods' Die wrote:
solace wrote:this album is way better than High Violet for me, sorry. i won't argue that Boxer isn't their best album though, because it is. and Alligator is a better album than High Violet too. This album is a very solid #3 for me and I took to it quicker than any new album of theirs since SSFDL.

honestly? Sea of Love live was better and more exciting live than Abel last week at Mercury Lounge... and i'd put probably 3-4 songs on this in my top 15-20 National songs, so i'd say that's pretty solid after 6 albums.

Slipped might be in my top 10 National songs ever too actually. Some of Matt's best lyrics to date. And Salt has become a top 3-5 for me after last weeks shows.

few bands in recent history have put out 4 (imo) classic albums in a row. i can't think of one personally... even Wilco had a bit of a dropoff after their 3rd straight classic album (YHF) with AGIB. i like good music, i don't care if bands make drastic changes or not. Change for the sake of isn't a good thing, I don't want them to "change who they are". Plus this album has more in common with Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers than it does HV.

also, as someone who has been seeing them live for coming up on 10 years in September, they're better live than they've ever been at the moment (not surprisingly). can't wait for DC/Philly/Richmond next weekend.

Dismiss it as fanboy homerism, I don't really care, but this is by far one I'd my favorite albums this year (only one that comes close so far is Phosphorescent). And has only gotten more enjoyable as weeks go on.

Well you're off about High Violet and Wilco's A Ghost Is Born...in my professional estimation.

Agree X 2. A Ghost Is Born is awesome.

Also MMJ's 1st 4 albums are gold, first 3 for sure. ;)
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Re: The National | Trouble Will Find Me [20 May]

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solace wrote:hah. why's that?

i love the new Laura Marling... probably her best yet
there just doesn't seem to be much overlap between our taste
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Heathen wrote:lol you don't have to feel bad for us, there's plenty other music for us to enjoy outside of this band

and every fucking album is getting rave reviews, why do people always have to bring that up like they needed to convince themselves they're in the right
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given2trade wrote: Agree X 2. A Ghost Is Born is awesome.

Also MMJ's 1st 4 albums are gold, first 3 for sure. ;)
i don't think Tennessee Fire is that great sadly... got into them with At Dawn, and love It Still Moves and Z, but yeah, they had a great run (sadly their last two have been just dreck... way worse than any National album (even their debut) for me)

as for AGIB, as good as it is, i'd still put it 5th for me personally in Wilco's catalog:

Being There
Summerteeth
YHF (this and ST are awfully close, ST has a few filler tracks)
The Whole Love
A Ghost Is Born
Sky Blue Sky
A.M. (sentimental favorite, being my introduction)
Wilco The Album (only Wilco album i don't own)
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solace wrote: few bands in recent history have put out 4 (imo) classic albums in a row
Yeah 4 classic is hard. For me Arcade Fire is on the Clock. I really enjoyed the first three and i'm excited to see how the fourth coems in

i would lump mastodon in there because i love the run from remission, leviathan, blood mountain, crack the skye

But as to Trouble Will Find you i'm just not feeling it. I think i'm in the wrong state of mind. I've been listening to a lot of heavy music and its just not what my ears want. I'm going to put the album down for a while and come back to it I have tix to them in Sept so i'll be sure to give it ample time before that.
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Big fan of Humiliation . . .
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I'm listening to this for the first time now :li:
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Chris_H_2 wrote:Big fan of Humiliation . . .
you heard that new crazy ending they do on that song live yet?

pretty sweet

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solace wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:Big fan of Humiliation . . .
you heard that new crazy ending they do on that song live yet?

pretty sweet

http://bsid.es/8qhq
Wow, that ending is . . . surprising. It reminds me of the random horns in Fleet Fox's The Argument.

By the way, the sound on that recording sounds like the original PJ recording from Red Rocks in 1995.
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diesel wrote:im excited but at the same time not letting myself get too excited. this band has created some amazing albums, each better than the last, and now that they're rich and famous, are they still hungry? Still creative and fresh? or have they peaked out?
solace wrote:...few bands in recent history have put out 4 (imo) classic albums in a row. i can't think of one personally... i like good music, i don't care if bands make drastic changes or not. Change for the sake of isn't a good thing, I don't want them to "change who they are". Plus this album has more in common with Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers than it does HV.

also, as someone who has been seeing them live for coming up on 10 years in September, they're better live than they've ever been at the moment (not surprisingly). can't wait for DC/Philly/Richmond next weekend.
their 3 album run, 4 for those of you who like TWFM, is hard to top. their run is what i was thinking about when i made my post on page 1 before the album came out. i didnt expect them to change or sound different, i like the sound and niche that they've created for themselves. but i was hoping for an album that had the same quality songwriting, lyrics, vocals, and feel as their previous 3. im not really disappointed with what i've heard, but i just dont feel it like the last three. who knows, i'm hoping thursdays show will change my opinion for the better. i think it will.
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I'm not feeling many of these songs. :(
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given2trade wrote:
Gods' Die wrote:
solace wrote:this album is way better than High Violet for me, sorry. i won't argue that Boxer isn't their best album though, because it is. and Alligator is a better album than High Violet too. This album is a very solid #3 for me and I took to it quicker than any new album of theirs since SSFDL.

honestly? Sea of Love live was better and more exciting live than Abel last week at Mercury Lounge... and i'd put probably 3-4 songs on this in my top 15-20 National songs, so i'd say that's pretty solid after 6 albums.

Slipped might be in my top 10 National songs ever too actually. Some of Matt's best lyrics to date. And Salt has become a top 3-5 for me after last weeks shows.

few bands in recent history have put out 4 (imo) classic albums in a row. i can't think of one personally... even Wilco had a bit of a dropoff after their 3rd straight classic album (YHF) with AGIB. i like good music, i don't care if bands make drastic changes or not. Change for the sake of isn't a good thing, I don't want them to "change who they are". Plus this album has more in common with Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers than it does HV.

also, as someone who has been seeing them live for coming up on 10 years in September, they're better live than they've ever been at the moment (not surprisingly). can't wait for DC/Philly/Richmond next weekend.

Dismiss it as fanboy homerism, I don't really care, but this is by far one I'd my favorite albums this year (only one that comes close so far is Phosphorescent). And has only gotten more enjoyable as weeks go on.

Well you're off about High Violet and Wilco's A Ghost Is Born...in my professional estimation.

Agree X 2. A Ghost Is Born is awesome.

Also MMJ's 1st 4 albums are gold, first 3 for sure. ;)
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zeb wrote:I'm not feeling many of these songs. :(
maybe you should have your feeler checked our by a doctor? ;)
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I know I was down on this album before, but I really like it.

By the way, Fireproof is a total ripoff of Racing Like a Pro. And the end of Don't Swalllow the Cap is straight from the end of Brainy.
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Though i criticize his voice like many haters, his singing on I Need My Girl turns me gay every time I hear it. I want to be his girl.
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apart from the debut, which is decent, i fuckin love all of their albums
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It's growing on me. I like Demons, Pink Rabbits, Don't Swallow the Cap, and most of Humiliation. But I don't know if there's a top tier song in the bunch which is a little disappointing, and a couple of the songs feel like retreads and they kinda blend together at times.
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BurtReynolds wrote:Though i criticize his voice like many haters, his singing on I Need My Girl turns me gay every time I hear it. I want to be his girl.
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Chris_H_2 wrote:I know I was down on this album before, but I really like it.

By the way, Fireproof is a total ripoff of Racing Like a Pro. And the end of Don't Swalllow the Cap is straight from the end of Brainy.
i've heard this twice now, but i don't hear it... someone said it was just because of the "you're" part in the chorus? which seems like a gigantic stretch to me.

do you mean the guitar arpeggio/chord progression?

if so, they're definitely both in a minor key, but the guitar part is a lot different if you play them back to back on guitar.
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