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dimejinky99 wrote:“I also felt an acute sense of responsibility and duty to my band members and our crew, who unlike me didn’t have a songwriting income to fall back on. My job was to come up with the hits, and recently I had failed to produce them” - Pete Townshend
That's a great book.

It really is. I'm only in the run up to writing Tommy and I'm wondering how he ever managed to escape these huge crosses, aka massive insecurity and pedophilic guilt , and gargantuan ego, more surprising that his band could deal with it.

Really only reading it cos I'm seeing the who play quadrophenia next week. I love Townshend but I just wish he'd not talk and just play songs sometimes.
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theplatypus wrote:Sounds like a Ramones song title.
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1. I'm excited and I don't even care.
2. Mind Your Manners isn't a terrible title.
3. It'll be a song in which the title is featured in the chorus and those words will be rushed to fit the song (ex: minyomannerrrsssss-ah!)
4. Ole is still a good song.
5. I'm not kidding.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
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dimejinky99 wrote:“I also felt an acute sense of responsibility and duty to my band members and our crew, who unlike me didn’t have a songwriting income to fall back on. My job was to come up with the hits, and recently I had failed to produce them” - Pete Townshend
That's a great book.

It really is. I'm only in the run up to writing Tommy and I'm wondering how he ever managed to escape these huge crosses, aka massive insecurity and pedophilic guilt , and gargantuan ego, more surprising that his band could deal with it.

Really only reading it cos I'm seeing the who play quadrophenia next week. I love Townshend but I just wish he'd not talk and just play songs sometimes.
I actually bought the book, and loved it enough to grab the audiobook as well (he reads it). I especially like the way he handles Moony in such an honest and affectionate way, without ever glorifying or romanticizing what a disaster he was as a person....I also have to admit that I had maintained a perception that his alcoholism was centered around the Lifehouse collapse, and didn't realize what a problem he had in the early 80's.

I do wish he had more to say about Quadrophenia and All the Best Cowboys, since these are such magnificent works....but, like with well-written works on the Stones and Beatles, I'm really grateful for how much time is spent on the early success moments. I already loved the My Generation album, but this helped me appreciate and contextualize the early singles a whole lot better.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Sounds like a Ramones song title.
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durdencommatyler wrote:1. I'm excited and I don't even care.
2. Mind Your Manners isn't a terrible title.
3. It'll be a song in which the title is featured in the chorus and those words will be rushed to fit the song (ex: minyomannerrrsssss-ah!)
4. Ole is still a good song.
5. I'm not kidding.
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durdencommatyler wrote:1. I'm excited and I don't even care.
2. Mind Your Manners isn't a terrible title.
3. It'll be a song in which the title is featured in the chorus and those words will be rushed to fit the song (ex: minyomannerrrsssss-ah!)
4. Ole is still a good song.
5. I'm not kidding.
It's just the nature of reading the title before you hear the song. I remember when I first heard that Pearl Jam's new single was going to be called "Who You Are," all I could think was, man, this is going to be so lame.
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Kevin Davis wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:1. I'm excited and I don't even care.
2. Mind Your Manners isn't a terrible title.
3. It'll be a song in which the title is featured in the chorus and those words will be rushed to fit the song (ex: minyomannerrrsssss-ah!)
4. Ole is still a good song.
5. I'm not kidding.
It's just the nature of reading the title before you hear the song. I remember when I first heard that Pearl Jam's new single was going to be called "Who You Are," all I could think was, man, this is going to be so lame.
I knew the song already but I am Mine is even worse.



Given to Fly is a great title though, and NAIS is pretty good.
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I agree with point 4, Joey.
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stip wrote:I am Mine is even worse.
Yeah. Yikes.

I was put off by "World Wide Suicide" too. I remember thinking, oh jeez, this is their "back to rock" album and they're just trying to throw out the most intense, in-your-face song titles possible to go along with the theme, a fear only confirmed when I saw "Severed Hand" and "Life Wasted" and "Comatose."

This band just does not excel at titling.
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Kevin Davis wrote:
stip wrote:I am Mine is even worse.
Yeah. Yikes.

I was put off by "World Wide Suicide" too. I remember thinking, oh jeez, this is their "back to rock" album and they're just trying to throw out the most intense, in-your-face song titles possible to go along with the theme, a fear only confirmed when I saw "Severed Hand" and "Life Wasted" and "Comatose."

This band just does not excel at titling.
Life Wasted is a bit heavy handed, and severed hand was dumb. but I liked Comatose (it's a great, layered word) and I like the juxtapositon of the sing songy feel of world wide suicide with the dark content of thephrase. I actually think it's a pretty good song title.


In terms of song titles S/T is one of their worst efforts. Comatose, WWS, and Parachutes are the only song titles I like.
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It goes without saying that we're all very excited about this. But that title does bring to mind either a Stone penned Supersonic or a Matt fixed Get Right, or just Ole part 2.

Bring it on and let The Fixer rise up in their catalogue.
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LetMeSleep wrote:It goes without saying that we're all very excited about this.
It does?
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Get Right is awesome, by the way.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:It goes without saying that we're all very excited about this.
It does?
I'd hope that anyone still posting in this forum is at least a bit excited about new music becoming just a little more concrete.
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But how can a song named "Mind Your Manners" possibly be good? I can't see any possible way of it happening.
Dev wrote:i love listening to the leaked pj song "last word".
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cutuphalfdead wrote:Get Right is awesome, by the way.
Dev wrote:i love listening to the leaked pj song "last word".
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cutuphalfdead wrote:Get Right is awesome, by the way.
You're goddamn right it is.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:Get Right is awesome, by the way.
Get Right is an alright song but certainly not PJs strongest. And as we are all here on this board, surely we have more than a passing interest in any output.

I also didn't give opinion on any of the songs mentioned. The title does suggest a jagged riff with possible shouted vocals
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