Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

[LoathedVermin72]

i never bought anakin's dark side turn in the prequels

He's pretty much a trailer trash hick in those movies, rat tail and all

[lennytheweedwhacker]

yes...thank you, team

[stip]

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Kylo Ren's character is what Anakin should have been

[Sgt. Crackpot]

i never bought anakin's dark side turn in the prequels

Yeah, it just came across as a moody teenager sulking and whining about everything.

Absolutely. He was a real twat. It's ridiculous that Obi Wan thought he was the chosen one. Maybe that was the era where Obi experimented with drugs?

[dimejinky99]

Where do you come from?

Classified?

Me too.

Big secret.

[LoathedVermin72]

Spoiler: show

Kylo Ren's character is what Anakin should have been

Ehh, they're equally whiny and dumb, really

[Sgt. Crackpot]

I like how Han saw through his crap immediately and started calling him Big Deal.

[Sgt. Crackpot]

I guess that's the point they're trying to push. That selfishness and anger are the path to the dark side.

[Sgt. Crackpot]

I'm not sure if I missed the reason, but why does Ren wear the mask? Vader had a reason, as it was keeping him alive. But Ren was able to remove it as often as he wanted.

[LoathedVermin72]

I guess that's the point they're trying to push. That selfishness and anger are the path to the dark side.

Selfishness and anger don't have to be expressed solely through childish tantrums, though.

[LoathedVermin72]

Hahaha oh man that's a good point

[Sgt. Crackpot]

*edit*
Shit, non spoiler thread. Moved to the other one.

[Sgt. Crackpot]

From the other thread due to spoilers.

I guess that's the point they're trying to push. That selfishness and anger are the path to the dark side.

Selfishness and anger don't have to be expressed solely through childish tantrums, though.

True. Many of the other sith lords and characters don't seem to display those characteristics. Maybe it was more unique to Anakin, and they're demonstrating that Ben/Ren has inherited many of the characteristics from his grandfather.

[stip]

I'm not sure if I missed the reason, but why does Ren wear the mask? Vader had a reason, as it was keeping him alive. But Ren was able to remove it as often as he wanted.

I think it's fairly clear it's because he thinks its intimidating. The character is very insecure.

[Sgt. Crackpot]

I'm not sure if I missed the reason, but why does Ren wear the mask? Vader had a reason, as it was keeping him alive. But Ren was able to remove it as often as he wanted.

I think it's fairly clear it's because he thinks its intimidating. The character is very insecure.

How does someone be in charge of such a massive planet/weapon and huge army, and be so insecure? I'd imagine the confidence and power trip would be insane.

[epilogue]

I like all the political minutiae in the prequels. Way more interesting than anything in TFA.

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

you have GOT to be kidding me.

I still haven't seen TFA, so I can't compare. But a lot of what I love about the OT (ANH especially) is the political stuff. To me that's just as much a part of the fabric of the thing as the space battles or even the Force mythology. The juxtaposition of practical military strategy/politics and the mythical Force is pretty compelling.

Lucas over did it a bit in the prequels. It was a tad convoluted but I liked that all that stuff was still there.

[McParadigm]

Jurassic World stank. And I spent 20 minutes of Avatar's second half in the hallway texting my wife because I was bored.

Pandora as a world was pure magic in its realization - and then they saddled it with a weak plot and weaker characters. But I was so swept away I didn't notice until the second viewing

I only remember forest and a few really silly looking creatures. Wasn't there an LED light tree? But if you were so swept away that you missed an entire movie's worth of weak plot the first time, maybe plot just isn't a major part of what you get out of a movie.

[Strat]

I'm not sure if I missed the reason, but why does Ren wear the mask? Vader had a reason, as it was keeping him alive. But Ren was able to remove it as often as he wanted.

I think it's fairly clear it's because he thinks its intimidating. The character is very insecure.

How does someone be in charge of such a massive planet/weapon and huge army, and be so insecure? I'd imagine the confidence and power trip would be insane.

He's not the only one in charge and you can feel the tension between him and hux.

[LoathedVermin72]

Hux was an even bigger bitch he was.

[Sgt. Crackpot]

Jurassic World stank. And I spent 20 minutes of Avatar's second half in the hallway texting my wife because I was bored.

Pandora as a world was pure magic in its realization - and then they saddled it with a weak plot and weaker characters. But I was so swept away I didn't notice until the second viewing

I only remember forest and a few really silly looking creatures. Wasn't there an LED light tree? But if you were so swept away that you missed an entire movie's worth of weak plot the first time, maybe plot just isn't a major part of what you get out of a movie.

Isn't it the exact plot ripped from Pocahontas?