Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

[LoathedVermin72]

In fact, the First Order seems to be comprised entirely of pathetic pussies.

[LoathedVermin72]

Jurassic World stank. And I spent 20 minutes of Avatar's second half in the hallway texting my wife because I was bored.

Pandora as a world was pure magic in its realization - and then they saddled it with a weak plot and weaker characters. But I was so swept away I didn't notice until the second viewing

I only remember forest and a few really silly looking creatures. Wasn't there an LED light tree? But if you were so swept away that you missed an entire movie's worth of weak plot the first time, maybe plot just isn't a major part of what you get out of a movie.

Isn't it the exact plot ripped from Pocahontas?

And Dances with Wolves and a bunch of other movies.

[Sgt. Crackpot]

Jurassic World stank. And I spent 20 minutes of Avatar's second half in the hallway texting my wife because I was bored.

Pandora as a world was pure magic in its realization - and then they saddled it with a weak plot and weaker characters. But I was so swept away I didn't notice until the second viewing

I only remember forest and a few really silly looking creatures. Wasn't there an LED light tree? But if you were so swept away that you missed an entire movie's worth of weak plot the first time, maybe plot just isn't a major part of what you get out of a movie.

Isn't it the exact plot ripped from Pocahontas?

And Dances with Wolves and a bunch of other movies.

Several porn movies too. Like 90% of them.

[lennytheweedwhacker]

yeah avatar did nothing for me

[stip]

I'm not sure if I missed the reason, but why does Ren wear the mask? Vader had a reason, as it was keeping him alive. But Ren was able to remove it as often as he wanted.

I think it's fairly clear it's because he thinks its intimidating. The character is very insecure.

How does someone be in charge of such a massive planet/weapon and huge army, and be so insecure? I'd imagine the confidence and power trip would be insane.

It's one of the reasons why he loses it when he can't get his way. He's not used to it. And the power is a way to compensate.

[stip]

Jurassic World stank. And I spent 20 minutes of Avatar's second half in the hallway texting my wife because I was bored.

Pandora as a world was pure magic in its realization - and then they saddled it with a weak plot and weaker characters. But I was so swept away I didn't notice until the second viewing

I only remember forest and a few really silly looking creatures. Wasn't there an LED light tree? But if you were so swept away that you missed an entire movie's worth of weak plot the first time, maybe plot just isn't a major part of what you get out of a movie.

It depends on the movie. But yes, in a movie that is defined by the majesty of its visual storytelling it is easy to overlook plot points as you're swept up in it. Just like the lyrics are more important in some songs than others, or the lack of meaningful character arcs in ghostbusters doesn't detract from the enjoyment of the film. Ideally you want all of these things, but any given piece of art can be lighter in some areas than others if they do the others really well.

And look, once the initial experience wore off the movie did not age well. It's what makes Jurrasic Park, which had a great story underneath the awe, a far superior movie.

[stip]

has the red letter media guy chimed in on this?

[LoathedVermin72]

I'm all for visual atmosphere but Avatar CGI's landscapes were utterly unmoving to me.

[McParadigm]

I'm all for visual atmosphere but Avatar CGI's landscapes were utterly unmoving to me.

Weren't there some floating islands straight out of 1970's fantasy novel artwork?

[stip]

oh yes

[E.H. Ruddock]

Jurassic World is the worst movie ever made.

Have you watched "we are your friends" yet?

[bada]

Well I loved it. I haven't read through the thread but I can't imagine I have any insights that others haven't articulated yet. Assuming Ray is Luke's kid sent away when Ren went bad. She looks too much like Portman to be a coincidence. It was hard being a man in front of my boy when Han died. I was really glad I stayed away from spoilers. I guess my only complaint is another Death Star. I don't really care though the franchise is back on track. Fun...heartfelt...exciting. Very happy.

[stip]

We'll always have this, Bada

[LoathedVermin72]

Jurassic World is the worst movie ever made.

Have you watched "we are your friends" yet?

lol

[stip]

the collider jedi council review discussion about whether or not Rey is Luke's daughter is really interesting. (starting around 20ish minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJoTyNikmZc

[stip]

The thought is that Rey (even if she's not a skywalker) was trained by Luke and saved from Ren's assault, but had her mind wiped by Luke--so the force stuff is coming back to her (otherwise why would she try the 'you will let me go and drop your gun' stuff. Interesting theory.

[bada]

We'll always have this, Bada

I'm just glad Star Wars wasn't a book first that you thought was crappy.

[bada]

Stip we are going to build off our love of Star Wars and be besties. Anything else will lead to the dark side.

[stip]

I think we have the marvel movies too, right?

[bada]

Yes we do.