Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

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So what did you think (DcT edition)?

Best of all the films
8
9%
Better than A New Hope, Empire, the prequels, But not Jedi
2
2%
Better than A New Hope, Jedi, the prequels, but not Empire
6
7%
Better than Empire, Jedi, the Prequels, but not A New Hope
2
2%
Better than A New Hope and the prequels, but not Empire or Jedi
2
2%
Better than Empire and the prequels, but not A New Hope or Jedi
1
1%
Better than Jedi and the prequels, but not a New Hope or Empire
23
26%
As good as Empire, Jedi, and A New Hope, and better than the prequels
15
17%
Better than the prequels, but not the originals
15
17%
As good as some of the prequels
7
8%
As good as all of the prequels
2
2%
Worse than the prequels
5
6%
 
Total votes: 88

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stip wrote:I wouldn't care if she is a skywalker.
I'm openly hoping she is one.
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stip wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:please save us gareth edwards
Is he the Rogue One guy? I didn't like godzilla very much.
I wouldn't expect you to.
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bada wrote:I'm fine with all the callbacks in the last movie but I hope going forward they give us some new ideas.
With the amount of money this is making, there's no way they will.
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:Yea i dont need those plot holes filled in. It doesnt matter. I believe this is what JJ was talking about when Kasdan told him to the trust the audience. I dont need to know exactly how and who the first order, or what the republic/resistance relationship is, or why the Falcon was on there. Its easy to read between the lines and ultimately it just doesnt fucking matter.
lololololol
Is it difficult for you to read betweent he lines and connect dots? That would make sense considering blackhat and ridiculous 6....
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Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:Yea i dont need those plot holes filled in. It doesnt matter. I believe this is what JJ was talking about when Kasdan told him to the trust the audience. I dont need to know exactly how and who the first order, or what the republic/resistance relationship is, or why the Falcon was on there. Its easy to read between the lines and ultimately it just doesnt fucking matter.
lololololol
Is it difficult for you to read betweent he lines and connect dots? That would make sense considering blackhat and ridiculous 6....
lol @ the idea that TFA does this any meaningful way, or that this is what Kasdan was talking about. If anything, how there is now magically a new organization that is exactly like the Empire is something that needs to be explained way more urgently than all the other things that get talked to death through mindless exposition in this shitshow of a movie.
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bada wrote:I'm fine with all the callbacks in the last movie but I hope going forward they give us some new ideas.
what do you mean by a new idea?
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
stip wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:please save us gareth edwards
Is he the Rogue One guy? I didn't like godzilla very much.
I wouldn't expect you to.
why not?
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:Yea i dont need those plot holes filled in. It doesnt matter. I believe this is what JJ was talking about when Kasdan told him to the trust the audience. I dont need to know exactly how and who the first order, or what the republic/resistance relationship is, or why the Falcon was on there. Its easy to read between the lines and ultimately it just doesnt fucking matter.
lololololol
Is it difficult for you to read betweent he lines and connect dots? That would make sense considering blackhat and ridiculous 6....
lol @ the idea that TFA does this any meaningful way, or that this is what Kasdan was talking about. If anything, how there is now magically a new organization that is exactly like the Empire is something that needs to be explained way more urgently than all the other things that get talked to death through mindless exposition in this shitshow of a movie.
Dude, all that happened in jedi was Vader and Palpatine were dismissed. There are still thousands of clones and soldiers around the galaxy. Someone stepped up into their place. THis HAPPENS IN THE REAL WORLD. Also, there is a story with Snoke.

How is that difficult for you to comprehend? I truly am astounded.
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Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:Yea i dont need those plot holes filled in. It doesnt matter. I believe this is what JJ was talking about when Kasdan told him to the trust the audience. I dont need to know exactly how and who the first order, or what the republic/resistance relationship is, or why the Falcon was on there. Its easy to read between the lines and ultimately it just doesnt fucking matter.
lololololol
Is it difficult for you to read betweent he lines and connect dots? That would make sense considering blackhat and ridiculous 6....
lol @ the idea that TFA does this any meaningful way, or that this is what Kasdan was talking about. If anything, how there is now magically a new organization that is exactly like the Empire is something that needs to be explained way more urgently than all the other things that get talked to death through mindless exposition in this shitshow of a movie.
Dude, all that happened in jedi was Vader and Palpatine were dismissed. There are still thousands of clones and soldiers around the galaxy. Someone stepped up into their place. THis HAPPENS IN THE REAL WORLD. Also, there is a story with Snoke.

How is that difficult for you to comprehend? I truly am astounded.

The empire disappearing would have required FAR more explanation. The remnants being forced to the outer rims and consolidating (and changing the name) is perfectly reasonable, and while the backstory may be interesting, it is in no way necessary to immediately understand what is going on.
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Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Strat wrote:Yea i dont need those plot holes filled in. It doesnt matter. I believe this is what JJ was talking about when Kasdan told him to the trust the audience. I dont need to know exactly how and who the first order, or what the republic/resistance relationship is, or why the Falcon was on there. Its easy to read between the lines and ultimately it just doesnt fucking matter.
lololololol
Is it difficult for you to read betweent he lines and connect dots? That would make sense considering blackhat and ridiculous 6....
lol @ the idea that TFA does this any meaningful way, or that this is what Kasdan was talking about. If anything, how there is now magically a new organization that is exactly like the Empire is something that needs to be explained way more urgently than all the other things that get talked to death through mindless exposition in this shitshow of a movie.
Dude, all that happened in jedi was Vader and Palpatine were dismissed. There are still thousands of clones and soldiers around the galaxy. Someone stepped up into their place. THis HAPPENS IN THE REAL WORLD. Also, there is a story with Snoke.

How is that difficult for you to comprehend? I truly am astounded.
The celebration at the end of ROTJ was way more cathartic than just some leaders were killed and now someone else was just gonna step in. The Empire was destroyed. The war was over. I'm not cool with new filmmakers just stepping in and saying, "Oh, actually, the bad guys weren't defeated and now the Empire is just called something else." Bullshit.
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stip wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
stip wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:please save us gareth edwards
Is he the Rogue One guy? I didn't like godzilla very much.
I wouldn't expect you to.
why not?
Because our sensibilities are about as diametrically opposed as anything could possibly be.
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be honest guys -- how much of have you spent on star wars toys this year on yourselv . . . er . . . on your kids?
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Thinly drawn characters, a mythology that made little sense, no people you actually cared about amidst all the destruction and carnage? That's not a sensibility issue. What do you see as its strengths.

The effects were good and I guess I liked watching the monsters fight. I did like Godzilla's final kill.
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No toys. I was given a star wars ornament by my parents (a new hope ornament, actually--Leia putting the plans in R2) and my wife bought a Darth vader, Threepio, R2, and Kylo ren ornament.

I have not yet bought some kind of BB8 figure, but I have every intention of doing so.
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No toys for me. Im all about the movies.
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stip wrote:Thinly drawn characters, a mythology that made little sense, no people you actually cared about amidst all the destruction and carnage? That's not a sensibility issue. What do you see as its strengths.

The effects were good and I guess I liked watching the monsters fight. I did like Godzilla's final kill.
I really don't have the energy to have another in-depth Godzilla debate on RM; I've stated my thoughts about it multiple times. Suffice to say I don't find the characters thinly drawn, I do care about them, and I think there is a lot of thematic weight behind Ford's arc. On top of that, it's a breathtaking work of art aesthetically/philosophically.
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what was its deeper philosophic message?
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
stip wrote:Thinly drawn characters, a mythology that made little sense, no people you actually cared about amidst all the destruction and carnage? That's not a sensibility issue. What do you see as its strengths.

The effects were good and I guess I liked watching the monsters fight. I did like Godzilla's final kill.
I really don't have the energy to have another in-depth Godzilla debate on RM; I've stated my thoughts about it multiple times. Suffice to say I don't find the characters thinly drawn, I do care about them, and I think there is a lot of thematic weight behind Ford's arc. On top of that, it's a breathtaking work of art aesthetically/philosophically.
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I just pulled the trigger on the sphero BB8 that's controlled by your phone. I wanted to stay true to the Hasbro brand, but this sphero one, while more expensive, blows it out of the water:

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I can see why you'd like that aesthetic. You seem to be drawn to those darker twilight (the time of day, not the movie) visuals.
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