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I imagine the supermodel would have scampered the minute you selected "S/T" as your mood music.
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Kevin Davis wrote:I imagine the supermodel would have scampered the minute you selected "S/T" as your mood music.
that would explain a lot.
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Do supermodels scamper? Or is it more of a skitter?
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Backspacer reminds me of a current day Foo Fighters album. Just out there trying to have fun and being a rock band, whatever that means
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BS sux and that's why i feel this new one is going to be this bands "white album"
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nightmareblack0206 wrote:BS sux and that's why i feel this new one is going to be this bands "white album"
That's awfully optimistic of you. Is there a precedent for a middle aged, comfortable rock band with an extensive back catalogue putting out their best album?
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WtOB? wrote:
tommymctom wrote:How do people feel about Inside Job these days?

Musically I quite like it, but I have a lot of trouble getting past the lyrics.
I have always loved it, lyrics and all.
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I believe this is going to be their last BUT their fkn best!
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Just going back to my original point, I really think what I hear post-2000 is largely a post-Roskilde emotionally rich re-emergence, mainly in the expressive range of Ed's voice and also to some extent (which may have nothing to do w Roskilde) a lot of jammy, cool stuff going on (especially w Stone, though I know lots of people won't agree, for example some shows in '06 which I think is becoming my favorite tour to listen to, some of the stuff he's doing behind Mike in Even Flow jams).

As others have said, the '03 tour is the emergence of post-Roskilde live PJ. The US leg of 2000 was too soon, nothing had been processed yet. I think Ed sounds depressed, limited in emotional range (as the depressed often are) and rather flat and it ruins that leg of that tour for me. To me what they came back with live after that is incredible.

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yofismom wrote:Just going back to my original point, I really think what I hear post-2000 is largely a post-Roskilde emotionally rich re-emergence, mainly in the expressive range of Ed's voice and also to some extent (which may have nothing to do w Roskilde) a lot of jammy, cool stuff going on (especially w Stone, though I know lots of people won't agree, for example some shows in '06 which I think is becoming my favorite tour to listen to, some of the stuff he's doing behind Mike in Even Flow jams).

As others have said, the '03 tour is the emergence of post-Roskilde live PJ. The US leg of 2000 was too soon, nothing had been processed yet. I think Ed sounds depressed, limited in emotional range (as the depressed often are) and rather flat and it ruins that leg of that tour for me. To me what they came back with live after that is incredible.

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Since 03/04, I've simply been disappointed by the band. I don't expect to love their albums straight through, but I appreciate left turns and unconventional songs as long as they show some growth. Avocado (less so) and Backspacer (moreso) show growth, but there's a lot more mimicking the old than expanding with the new.

Maybe 03/04 was the last of the unconventional PJ era, I was under the impression they could do anything: own label, own studio, Internet as a distribution method, the bootlegs, great shows, tours packing venues at will, further communication with fans, seriously anything you could think of.

I could list all the stuff I'm saddened about, but it really comes down to the dearth of new music. Just feels like missed opportunities for a decade.
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tommymctom wrote:
nightmareblack0206 wrote:BS sux and that's why i feel this new one is going to be this bands "white album"
That's awfully optimistic of you. Is there a precedent for a middle aged, comfortable rock band with an extensive back catalogue putting out their best album?

BS felt like a natural answer/antidote to S/T, and it to Riot Act. Musically speaking. (And maybe in terms of production?)

Not unreasonable to think this one could be a stoner space rock record.
I hope it is.
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Exactly what I'm thinking
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darth_vedder wrote:
WtOB? wrote:
tommymctom wrote:How do people feel about Inside Job these days?

Musically I quite like it, but I have a lot of trouble getting past the lyrics.
I have always loved it, lyrics and all.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
tommymctom wrote:
nightmareblack0206 wrote:BS sux and that's why i feel this new one is going to be this bands "white album"
That's awfully optimistic of you. Is there a precedent for a middle aged, comfortable rock band with an extensive back catalogue putting out their best album?

BS felt like a natural answer/antidote to S/T, and it to Riot Act. Musically speaking. (And maybe in terms of production?)

Not unreasonable to think this one could be a stoner space rock record.
I hope it is.
What gives anyone even a remote idea that they have the ability to even play that card? As someone stated earlier in this thread or one of the others: Mike has been playing the same blues scales for 20 years.

They don't have the chops for a 'space rock' record
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Oh yes they do
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verb_to_trust wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
tommymctom wrote:
nightmareblack0206 wrote:BS sux and that's why i feel this new one is going to be this bands "white album"
That's awfully optimistic of you. Is there a precedent for a middle aged, comfortable rock band with an extensive back catalogue putting out their best album?

BS felt like a natural answer/antidote to S/T, and it to Riot Act. Musically speaking. (And maybe in terms of production?)

Not unreasonable to think this one could be a stoner space rock record.
I hope it is.
What gives anyone even a remote idea that they have the ability to even play that card? As someone stated earlier in this thread or one of the others: Mike has been playing the same blues scales for 20 years.

They don't have the chops for a 'space rock' record
what is space rock?
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stip wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
tommymctom wrote:
nightmareblack0206 wrote:BS sux and that's why i feel this new one is going to be this bands "white album"
That's awfully optimistic of you. Is there a precedent for a middle aged, comfortable rock band with an extensive back catalogue putting out their best album?

BS felt like a natural answer/antidote to S/T, and it to Riot Act. Musically speaking. (And maybe in terms of production?)

Not unreasonable to think this one could be a stoner space rock record.
I hope it is.
What gives anyone even a remote idea that they have the ability to even play that card? As someone stated earlier in this thread or one of the others: Mike has been playing the same blues scales for 20 years.

They don't have the chops for a 'space rock' record
what is space rock?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_rock

From the above entry:

"A major album in the history of space rock was Hawkwind's Space Ritual (1973),[12] a two-disc live album advertised as "88 minutes of brain-damage" documenting Hawkwind's successful 1972 tour of their blow-out show complete with liquid lights and lasers, nude dancers (notably the earth-mother figure Stacia), wild costumes and psychedelic imagery. This hard-edged concert experience attracted a motley but dedicated collection of psychedelic drug users, science-fiction fans and motorcycle riders. The science fiction author Michael Moorcock collaborated with Hawkwind on many occasions: for example, he wrote the lyrics for many of the spoken-word sections on Space Ritual."

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I wasn't aware that space rock had a definition. I was thinking more of a dark instrumental heavy record with lots of 8 minute long trippy songs. Like NAIS but more so.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_rock

From the above entry:

"A major album in the history of space rock was Hawkwind's Space Ritual (1973),[12] a two-disc live album advertised as "88 minutes of brain-damage" documenting Hawkwind's successful 1972 tour of their blow-out show complete with liquid lights and lasers, nude dancers (notably the earth-mother figure Stacia), wild costumes and psychedelic imagery. This hard-edged concert experience attracted a motley but dedicated collection of psychedelic drug users, science-fiction fans and motorcycle riders. The science fiction author Michael Moorcock collaborated with Hawkwind on many occasions: for example, he wrote the lyrics for many of the spoken-word sections on Space Ritual."

MAYBE THIS IS WHAT PEARL JAM WILL DO NEXT.[/quote]

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