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Simple Torture wrote:Word now is that Trump is going to skip the next Fox debate. Big deal / little deal / no big deal?
He'll be the elephant in the room, but not have to care about preparing for it
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Simple Torture wrote:Word now is that Trump is going to skip the next Fox debate. Big deal / little deal / no big deal?
And he's skipping specifically because megan kelley will be there, right? Hilarious
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What is trumps beef with Megan Kelley?
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tommymtcom wrote:What is trumps beef with Megan Kelley?
She wont fuck him
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It's simultaneously a temper tantrum and a power play. It's kind of astounding, really.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:My wife and I are past having any more kids, so I guess I don't care about ab*rtion
that's fucked up, ruddo
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How serious is that statement? I don't buy that you only care about issues that affect you directly.
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theplatypus wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:My wife and I are past having any more kids, so I guess I don't care about ab*rtion
that's fucked up, ruddo
*shrugs*
How serious is that statement? I don't buy that you only care about issues that affect you directly.
I think Ruddo is alluding to his privilege here. He is trying to acknowledge the lived experiences of the fecund.
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I would like to change my vote to Ramsay Bolton.
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theplatypus wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:My wife and I are past having any more kids, so I guess I don't care about ab*rtion
that's fucked up, ruddo
*shrugs*
How serious is that statement? I don't buy that you only care about issues that affect you directly.
I'm just trying to make the point that in order to find the best candidate for me, I have to prioritize the issues and figure out what is most important to me, possibly sacrificing some other values/ideas. No candidate is going to agree with all of my values. Of course I care about abortion, guys.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:My wife and I are past having any more kids, so I guess I don't care about ab*rtion
that's fucked up, ruddo
*shrugs*
How serious is that statement? I don't buy that you only care about issues that affect you directly.
I'm just trying to make the point that in order to find the best candidate for me, I have to prioritize the issues and figure out what is most important to me, possibly sacrificing some other values/ideas. No candidate is going to agree with all of my values. Of course I care about abortion, guys.
This logic is exactly why I say the voting cutoff should be around 50. We are eternally dealing with the fallout of half-informed dumbdumb retirees who will burn tomorrow's bridges for today's sweet ease. The combination of "I need to look out for my interests above all others" with "I won't be around for the consequences" and "my values are decades behind reality" just sucks.
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McParadigm wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:My wife and I are past having any more kids, so I guess I don't care about ab*rtion
that's fucked up, ruddo
*shrugs*
How serious is that statement? I don't buy that you only care about issues that affect you directly.
I'm just trying to make the point that in order to find the best candidate for me, I have to prioritize the issues and figure out what is most important to me, possibly sacrificing some other values/ideas. No candidate is going to agree with all of my values. Of course I care about abortion, guys.
This logic is exactly why I say the voting cutoff should be around 50. We are eternally dealing with the fallout of half-informed dumbdumb retirees who will burn tomorrow's bridges for today's sweet ease. The combination of "I need to look out for my interests above all others" with "I won't be around for the consequences" and "my values are decades behind reality" just sucks.
So you are saying that if a candidate that I identify with on a couple of issues, but not on a main issue, is the one I should vote for because it is for the greater good? And how is it that because I want to find someone that has the most values that I identify with means that my values are decades behind reality?
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And what if I feel as though the issues that are important to me are also important to tomorrow and the future? Jesus McP. It isn't a selfish method if I think the issues are universally important. I'm really confused.
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I don't think he was specifically talking about you, Ruddock. His was more a blanket statement about how baby boomers are fucking everything up because they are selfish assholes.
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tommymtcom wrote:I don't think he was specifically talking about you, Ruddock. His was more a blanket statement about how baby boomers are fucking everything up because they are selfish assholes.
Sort of. I don't think they're the only generation guilty of or likely to do this in the future. I think everybody does what Ruddo is talking about to one degree or another, and as you get old and your interests are less and less about the future and your perceptions less inspired by the present, you become part of the worst and coincidentally loudest voting group on earth.
And how is it that because I want to find someone that has the most values that I identify with means that my values are decades behind reality?
That's not what I said. What I said was that you will still pursue candidates who most value what you identify with when what you identify with is no longer in the nation's or world's best interests. This behavior you exhibit now, and the other things I mentioned,which (to be clear) I think all of us exhibit to some degree, will blend with your (our) old age to make you (us) an especially shitty voter (group). Hell, we'll probably be worse than the Boomers.
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What do we want?
"Less voting rights!"

When do we want them!
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Eh, I think most Xers will just say "fuck it" as they see the system screw them again, and just make do with what's available.

George Carlin had the best monologue on the typical Boomer critique--but it was actually his own generation (the Silents) that got the freest ride in recent history.
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Wow this is pretty shocking to learn that people vote based on self interest. At least we have those new millennial voters who are well known to put others ahead of themselves and are deeply concerned about the future and not what is happening in the next five minutes.
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