What are Pearl Jam's "Eras"?
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Re: What are Pearl Jam's "Eras"?
1 - Mammasan to August 1994 - The symbolic end of this era is 'Last Exit.'
2 - .... to April 1998
3 - ...... to October 2004
4 - ....to present
2 - .... to April 1998
3 - ...... to October 2004
4 - ....to present
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Re: What are Pearl Jam's "Eras"?
Seconded.ABNorman wrote:Yeah, let's just adopt CopperTom's eras as the official RM guide.
Motion carries.
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Re: What are Pearl Jam's "Eras"?
I'd make a slight edit, and say 2005, maybe even 2004 started the "Rebirth" era. They seemed more lively and whatnot on that 2005 Canadian tour. That new energy, and rawk, were heard on S/T.LetMeSleep wrote:Yeah the above is about right.Birds in Hell wrote:This is pretty spot on.CopperTom wrote:Public: 1990 - 1995
Retreat: 1996 - 1999
Withdrawn: 2000 - 2005
Rebirth: 2006 - 2008
Content: 2009 - present
PJ have reacted to certain events (in a completely understandable way) like TM, Roskilde and the Iraq war/Bush admin. The content era coincides with the reissues and the start of regular festivals and from memory the start of the Obama admin.
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Re: What are Pearl Jam's "Eras"?
well the 2003 tour launches the 'pearl jam concert as celebration' transformation.
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I'll play (I stole a little from others...)
1. Rise From the Ashes
Mar 1990 (Wood overdose) - Aug 1991 (Ten release)
Includes early demos, TotD, Mookie Blaylock, etc...
2. Popularity Explosion
Aug 1991 - Dec 1994 (Vitalogy Release)
Abbruzzese joins, early touring, Magazine covers, Vs/93/94 tours, Vitalogy sessions w/Dave
3. Retreat
Jan 1995 (Self Pollution 1) - Jan 1998 (Monkeywrench Radio, Given to Fly single released)
Jack Irons joins, Non-TM tours, summer 1995 shows, Mike Watt, Ed club shows, 96 tours, Yield sessions
4. Re-Birth
Jan 1998 - June 2000 (Roskilde)
Yield Released, DTE/SVT videos, Matt Cameron joins, big 98 tour, Binaural, big 2000 tour, official bootlegs begin
5. Reflection & Purpose
June 2000 - November 2004 (VFC Tour)
Post-Roskilde, Riot Act, Large 03 US tour, Political Angst, Man of the Hour
6. Post-Riot Act Moneygrab
Dec 2004 - Sept 2011 (PJ20 movie/festival)
Political efforts thwarted, Marriage/Family?, cut ties with Sony, Avocado release, huge 2006 tour, small mini-tours start, Backspacer promotion and release, Fixer video, Ed Solo albums, Side projects, culminates with PJ20
7. Dad-Rock Comfort
Oct 2011 - 2016 and beyond
Kids growing, Springsteen emulation, mostly Int'l touring, forced Lightning Bolt recordings and release, Ed private/corporate events, 3 years of Lightning Bolt tours, rock HOF induction...
1. Rise From the Ashes
Mar 1990 (Wood overdose) - Aug 1991 (Ten release)
Includes early demos, TotD, Mookie Blaylock, etc...
2. Popularity Explosion
Aug 1991 - Dec 1994 (Vitalogy Release)
Abbruzzese joins, early touring, Magazine covers, Vs/93/94 tours, Vitalogy sessions w/Dave
3. Retreat
Jan 1995 (Self Pollution 1) - Jan 1998 (Monkeywrench Radio, Given to Fly single released)
Jack Irons joins, Non-TM tours, summer 1995 shows, Mike Watt, Ed club shows, 96 tours, Yield sessions
4. Re-Birth
Jan 1998 - June 2000 (Roskilde)
Yield Released, DTE/SVT videos, Matt Cameron joins, big 98 tour, Binaural, big 2000 tour, official bootlegs begin
5. Reflection & Purpose
June 2000 - November 2004 (VFC Tour)
Post-Roskilde, Riot Act, Large 03 US tour, Political Angst, Man of the Hour
6. Post-Riot Act Moneygrab
Dec 2004 - Sept 2011 (PJ20 movie/festival)
Political efforts thwarted, Marriage/Family?, cut ties with Sony, Avocado release, huge 2006 tour, small mini-tours start, Backspacer promotion and release, Fixer video, Ed Solo albums, Side projects, culminates with PJ20
7. Dad-Rock Comfort
Oct 2011 - 2016 and beyond
Kids growing, Springsteen emulation, mostly Int'l touring, forced Lightning Bolt recordings and release, Ed private/corporate events, 3 years of Lightning Bolt tours, rock HOF induction...
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Re: What are Pearl Jam's "Eras"?
Holy shit, someone put an end date on the PRAMG! 
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Re: What are Pearl Jam's "Eras"?
that actually makes a fair bit of sense
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As soon as they release an album that RM deems worthy, that will be the end date. Until then, it's an open ended thing.B wrote:Holy shit, someone put an end date on the PRAMG!
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What if they charge double for it? Or give it away? Oh shit.durdencommatyler wrote:As soon as they release an album that RM deems worthy, that will be the end date. Until then, it's an open ended thing.B wrote:Holy shit, someone put an end date on the PRAMG!
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Noboby pays for music anymore, LMS.LetMeSleep wrote:What if they charge double for it? Or give it away? Oh shit.durdencommatyler wrote:As soon as they release an album that RM deems worthy, that will be the end date. Until then, it's an open ended thing.B wrote:Holy shit, someone put an end date on the PRAMG!
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It is the longest of all Pearl Jam Eras, though, almost 7 yearsB wrote:Holy shit, someone put an end date on the PRAMG!
The Dad-Rock Comfort Era is poised to overtake this longevity, however....
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Matt's gotta be close to becoming a grandpa, no?hlniv wrote:It is the longest of all Pearl Jam Eras, though, almost 7 yearsB wrote:Holy shit, someone put an end date on the PRAMG!
The Dad-Rock Comfort Era is poised to overtake this longevity, however....
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And least productive.hlniv wrote:It is the longest of all Pearl Jam Eras, though, almost 7 yearsB wrote:Holy shit, someone put an end date on the PRAMG!
The Dad-Rock Comfort Era is poised to overtake this longevity, however....
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As long as Jeff stays childless and bitter, things can't get too bad.
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Is that really a fair critique? Are there any artists who are more productive in their second decade than they were in their first?LetMeSleep wrote:And least productive.hlniv wrote:It is the longest of all Pearl Jam Eras, though, almost 7 yearsB wrote:Holy shit, someone put an end date on the PRAMG!
The Dad-Rock Comfort Era is poised to overtake this longevity, however....
Shit, Metallica hasn't written a tenth album, and they've been around since '83. They're almost at 8 years since their last one.
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Re: What are Pearl Jam's "Eras"?
Recognising that this doesn't reflect all of the possible options, I'd rather no new music than lots of bad new music.
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I'd like them to be less conscious of themselves. I thought Ole and its release could signal the start of that. Get something out quickly and follow it up with something different within the next year or two. For all of Neil's missteps aren't dwelt on for long.
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Easier for a solo artist to maintain that kind of restless energy than a band of five guys with a whole organsation built around them, I expect.
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Absolutely. However, if all five of them were booked into a studio next week and they were asked to bring in 3-4 ideas each (ideas not even fully fleshed out songs but they'd have those anyway) there would be an album there. And no one knows whether it'd be successful or not (and by successful I don't mean commercially).Birds in Hell wrote:Easier for a solo artist to maintain that kind of restless energy than a band of five guys with a whole organsation built around them, I expect.
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Re: What are Pearl Jam's "Eras"?
Started up this debate again in the Celebration Rock thread. Sorry.
Struggling with fame: Ten/Vs./Vitalogy
Struggling with each other: No Code/Yield
Struggling with Bush: Binaural/Riot Act/Avocado
Struggling with old age: Backspacer/Lightning Bolt
Struggling with fame: Ten/Vs./Vitalogy
Struggling with each other: No Code/Yield
Struggling with Bush: Binaural/Riot Act/Avocado
Struggling with old age: Backspacer/Lightning Bolt
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