Election 2016

Engage in discussions about news, politics, etc.
Post Reply
User avatar
Norah
Poster of the Year
Posts: 37455
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:04 pm
Location: September 2020 Poster of the Month

Re: Election 2016

Post by Norah »

Green Habit wrote:It'll be interesting to see how closely this map comes to the final results.

Image
God I hate Cape Cod.
nyquillyn
Misplaced My Sponge
Posts: 5825
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:11 pm

Re: Election 2016

Post by nyquillyn »

The Argonaut wrote:
turned2black wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Christie backing Trump. Hoping for a VP offer?
No way. Cabinet post at best.
Why no way? It makes good sense to me? Who better might he pick?
I think he'll pick an African-American or a woman. That'll be his weak spot against Hilldog. Nikki Haley and Tim Scott would be my No. 1 and No. 2.

Also, Christie kinda lost his shine a while ago nationally. He carries no buzz. If he was gonna go "white guy", he'd be way better off going with Rick Scott.
User avatar
pnjguy
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
Posts: 558
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 5:02 pm

Re: Election 2016

Post by pnjguy »

All this election race needs is Micheal Bloomberg to lay his dick on the table then we'll be all set.
User avatar
The Argonaut
I've been POOSSTTIiiEEnngeeaahh
Posts: 11941
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 1:53 pm
Location: in the air tonight

Re: Election 2016

Post by The Argonaut »

Republicans like Nicki Haley or Tim Scott, meaning Republicans with a future, are going to stay as far away from Trump as they can. Christie might be the biggest name he can get. Plus, their styles match and Trump said a couple days ago he wants to pick an "insider" as a VP.
Please consider voting for me
nyquillyn
Misplaced My Sponge
Posts: 5825
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:11 pm

Re: Election 2016

Post by nyquillyn »

These kinds of opportunities don't come around too often for minorities in the GOP. J.C. Watts ended up a burnt out shell of a congressman after being hailed as a GOP "kingmaker" like Tim Scott. I'm guessing he and Haley would gladly accept a VP nod.

Also, nobody gives a shit about "styles" matching. It's about strategy, demographics and strengthening a candidate's perceived weaknesses. Christie does very little for Trump in that regard.
User avatar
Simple Torture
I Have A Third Nipple
Posts: 21689
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:41 am
Location: Cumberland, RI

Re: Election 2016

Post by Simple Torture »

Are there numbers out there that tend to suggest VP candidates can sway an election one way or the other? I know that the textbook example is Kennedy picking LBJ in order to lock up Southern Democrats, but I've never actually seen polling that clearly shows that people chose one candidate over another based on VP (maybe exit polling?).
McParadigm wrote:lol
b_i_revisited
Broken Tamborine
Posts: 299
Joined: Mon October 26, 2015 2:04 pm

Re: Election 2016

Post by b_i_revisited »

Apparently that big study out of Amherst from a few weeks ago that proved Bernie's economic plans would work is based on someone not actually understanding how economic plans work. Or macroeconomics in general. Well, rather someone who simply disagrees with how macroeconomics work.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/27/upsho ... -plan.html



Side note: here's a tool (no, not that youtube asshole from the cultural Libertarianism thread) that shows where the money from the 2012 election is going in 2016:

http://time.com/4083253/political-donor ... d=tcoshare


Side, side note: Firefox doesn't think "Libertarianism" is a word


Side, side, side note: Malbec from Argentina is amazing after a 24 hour fast.
Alex wrote:i wonder what the supermassive jackhole broken iris would have thought about this
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=1278
User avatar
Simple Torture
I Have A Third Nipple
Posts: 21689
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:41 am
Location: Cumberland, RI

Re: Election 2016

Post by Simple Torture »

This "Is Ted Cruz the Zodiac killer?" stuff is really great.

Image
McParadigm wrote:lol
User avatar
McParadigm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Posts: 22393
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am

Re: Election 2016

Post by McParadigm »

Man I sure hope people who reference direct measurement studies (causal or otherwise) but have only actually read media reports about such start to die off soon.
(patriotic choking noises)
User avatar
Norah
Poster of the Year
Posts: 37455
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:04 pm
Location: September 2020 Poster of the Month

Re: Election 2016

Post by Norah »

Simple Torture wrote:Are there numbers out there that tend to suggest VP candidates can sway an election one way or the other? I know that the textbook example is Kennedy picking LBJ in order to lock up Southern Democrats, but I've never actually seen polling that clearly shows that people chose one candidate over another based on VP (maybe exit polling?).
I could see it helping winning a battleground state if you pick a popular politician from there, but I doubt it's as big of a factor as it was when there was the Dixiecrat/Yankee split in the Democratic party.
b_i_revisited
Broken Tamborine
Posts: 299
Joined: Mon October 26, 2015 2:04 pm

Re: Election 2016

Post by b_i_revisited »

McParadigm wrote:Man I sure hope people who reference direct measurement studies (causal or otherwise) but have only actually read media reports about such start to die off soon.
Nah, we are immortal.
Alex wrote:i wonder what the supermassive jackhole broken iris would have thought about this
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=1278
nyquillyn
Misplaced My Sponge
Posts: 5825
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:11 pm

Re: Election 2016

Post by nyquillyn »

Given both Clinton's and Trump's huge "dislike" numbers, VP picks will matter more than they usually do.
User avatar
LoathedVermin72
The Master
Posts: 33961
Joined: Sun May 25, 2014 9:32 pm

Re: Election 2016

Post by LoathedVermin72 »

I really don't understand how Christie still has a political career. If that bridge scandal can't end someone as a politician, our society is seriously fucked in the head.
User avatar
Simple Torture
I Have A Third Nipple
Posts: 21689
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:41 am
Location: Cumberland, RI

Re: Election 2016

Post by Simple Torture »

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I really don't understand how Christie still has a political career. If that bridge scandal can't end someone as a politician, our society is seriously fucked in the head.
New Jersey gonna New Jersey
McParadigm wrote:lol
User avatar
Green Habit
Site Admin
Posts: 6946
Joined: Wed December 12, 2012 10:33 pm

Re: Election 2016

Post by Green Habit »

Hey stip, you have any thoughts to this article?

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2 ... trump-love

This is something I have yet to take a side on, largely because your argument about Trump is interesting.
User avatar
Strat
Waiting for HVAC Repairman
Posts: 35420
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:48 pm
Location: Twin City Kisses

Re: Election 2016

Post by Strat »

Finding the correct words for a response to shit like this is difficult for me. How in the world is this guy, in this country, land of the free, yadda yadda, the front runner?

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/art ... -reporters
User avatar
Mine
AnalLog
Posts: 1833
Joined: Wed April 03, 2013 8:10 pm

Re: Election 2016

Post by Mine »

Strat wrote:Finding the correct words for a response to shit like this is difficult for me. How in the world is this guy, in this country, land of the free, yadda yadda, the front runner?

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/art ... -reporters
This is ironic in a way since i find the media in the US to be relatively soft on politicians.
User avatar
Green Habit
Site Admin
Posts: 6946
Joined: Wed December 12, 2012 10:33 pm

Re: Election 2016

Post by Green Habit »

Strat wrote:Finding the correct words for a response to shit like this is difficult for me. How in the world is this guy, in this country, land of the free, yadda yadda, the front runner?

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/art ... -reporters
Don't worry, it's just more bombastic yet unrealistic Trumpspeak. As the article suggested, the current Supreme Court would run him over 8-0 on this, and 9-0 if Scalia was still alive. I guess he could somehow swing it to a meaningless 8-1 if he somehow became president.
User avatar
Simple Torture
I Have A Third Nipple
Posts: 21689
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:41 am
Location: Cumberland, RI

Re: Election 2016

Post by Simple Torture »

Not for nothing, but I would love to see the sort of person Trump would nominate for the SCOTUS.
McParadigm wrote:lol
User avatar
Green Habit
Site Admin
Posts: 6946
Joined: Wed December 12, 2012 10:33 pm

Re: Election 2016

Post by Green Habit »

Simple Torture wrote:Not for nothing, but I would love to see the sort of person Trump would nominate for the SCOTUS.
My feeling is that he'd go beyond full Harry Truman and try to appoint people that have completely sucked up to him.
Post Reply