Film: The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug (2013)

[VinylGuy]

fuck i just dont care about this anymore. I havent seen the first one because Peter Jackson did it in three movies, and i wont see this one.


Peter, please go back to make movies like Bad Taste please.

[oasisfan35]

fuck i just dont care about this anymore. I havent seen the first one because Peter Jackson did it in three movies, and i wont see this one.


Peter, please go back to make movies like Bad Taste please.

[E.H. Ruddock]

Guys, it's a dragon. We all know what a dragon looks like. How does it ruin anything by seeing Smaug? It's not like it is going to be some new never before seen type of dragon, or Puff the Magic Dragon, it's just a dragon. I'll be more angry if they have another scene with dwarves singing about doing the dishes.

We all know how it ends, too, so they should just put the climactic five minutes where everything is resolved online when they try and sell the third one.

Pretty much. I had a bad feeling about this trilogy after seeing the first movie. Plus, it will never top the original Hobbit movie.

[McParadigm]

Bonus: That shit gave us Wizards.

[Mecca]

will there be rabbit sleds?

[McParadigm]

will there be rabbit sleds?

Well, Doctor Who the poop wizard is there, so probably.

I still want to see a cut of that scene where he leads the orcs in a continuing circle around the heroes (thus helping in no way whatsoever) while they jog back and forth like morons, with Yakity Sax playing over it.

[epilogue]

Please, be honest. Did anyone like Hobbit: Part One? And if so, why? I'm genuinely curious.

Full disclosure: I thought Fellowship was a GREAT movie. Twin Towers was fascinating and a worthy sequel. Return Of The King was so flawed it was distracting. Just a giant mess; full of cringe-worthy dialogue and character hiccups.

The Hobbit, to me, was just awful. A complete waste of time. And I watched it for free. On a plane from Paris. What a wretched piece of shit. God!

If you did like The Hobbit: Part One, what (if anything) honestly excites you about Part Two? I'll be honest. I LOVE Evangeline Lilly. She's talented. She's smoking hot. She's awesome. But even she can't entice me. This film looks just as laughable and forgettable and frustrating as Part One.

[dimejinky99]

I understand yours and eveyone else's skepticism. I too was disappointed hugely by the Hobbit. But I'm somehow optimistic about this next one. It could well be great. And if anything, it's the final movie that's really likely to be the biggest turd. But we'll get to that in time.
I want to believe this one will be great. Despite all evidence to the contrary.

[griffinxi]

The first Hobbit was so bad. I just don't even care. Yes, Evangeline Lilly, of course! But...

I didn't think it was bad. In fact I had a good time. It didn't destroy my brains with excellence or anything, but I thought it was fun.

[epilogue]

The first Hobbit was so bad. I just don't even care. Yes, Evangeline Lilly, of course! But...

I didn't think it was bad. In fact I had a good time. It didn't destroy my brains with excellence or anything, but I thought it was fun.

Cool. I'm glad you had fun. I wasn't expecting a masterpiece. But I was expecting to have fun. At best I was bored. But I'm not a huge fan of the book either.

As long as people are enjoying themselves. That's all that matters. Thing just wasn't my scene.

[bada]

Please, be honest. Did anyone like Hobbit: Part One? And if so, why? I'm genuinely curious.

Full disclosure: I thought Fellowship was a GREAT movie. Twin Towers was fascinating and a worthy sequel. Return Of The King was so flawed it was distracting. Just a giant mess; full of cringe-worthy dialogue and character hiccups.

The Hobbit, to me, was just awful. A complete waste of time. And I watched it for free. On a plane from Paris. What a wretched piece of shit. God!

If you did like The Hobbit: Part One, what (if anything) honestly excites you about Part Two? I'll be honest. I LOVE Evangeline Lilly. She's talented. She's smoking hot. She's awesome. But even she can't entice me. This film looks just as laughable and forgettable and frustrating as Part One.

I've read the Hobbit at least a dozen times. I should be first in line but I can't get up for these movies. I'll probably blue ray the super extended editions in a few years.

Our LOTR movie experience is pretty much the same though I think I liked the ROTK a little more than you did. I really had to put in the effort to overlook the changes from the books which I think were all for the worse. The new Hobbit trailer looks like they changed everything. It will probably kill me.

I normally don't care when film makers play loose and fast with the source material but at the risk of sounding ridiculous Tolkien is sacred to me. The changes give me a headache. Lily is hot though in her little elf outfit.

[dimejinky99]

The changes to the LOTR films were almost all, unforgivable but if you weren't an avid fan like myself and yourself, you'd never know.

Who do they play to?
The widest audience possible. Screw the hardcore. We'll make it up to hem with the extended editions.

Just read today that the firstHobbit movie extended edition, due for release in December, has a PG13 rating. 'Some fleeting nudity'.

Nothing was ever naked in middle earth. Not even treebeard!!!

Ch ch ch ch chaaanges

[bada]

The changes to the LOTR films were almost all, unforgivable but if you weren't an avid fan like myself and yourself, you'd never know.

Who do they play to?
The widest audience possible. Screw the hardcore. We'll make it up to hem with the extended editions.

Just read today that the firstHobbit movie extended edition, due for release in December, has a PG13 rating. 'Some fleeting nudity'.

Nothing was ever naked in middle earth. Not even treebeard!!!

Ch ch ch ch chaaanges

The only change I liked was when Gandalf exorcised Saruman from Theoden as opposed to just being under the influence of Grima and his potions or whatever. The other changes were horrible.

[dimejinky99]

Theonering.net have an article about Tolkiens feelings about the changes. He mostly would have agreed with everything PJ did, based on letters he wrote before and after having sold the movie rights.

I don't buy it. Think he would have thought it looked perfect but the miriad of unnecessary changes(Aragorn going off that cliff was always the worst one) would have drove him crazy.

As well as him saying that the Nazgul were to be completely totally silent. They were never to scream as they did in the movies. He thought the large part of their menace came from this life sucking silence.
He might have been right about that. I think silence would have worked better. As if they smothered all sound upon their arrival anywhere.

[bada]

I find it hard to believe he would have been ok with what they did to Faramir.

[BurtReynolds]

i couldnt find the energy to see The Hobbit until a few weeks ago, and I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought. Its just fucking gorgeous and Gollum never ceases to enthrall me. The Goblin cave roller coaster finale was total shit though.

[dimejinky99]

In all fairness, the *only* scene of any importance in this whole film, was Riddles in the dark. And I defy anyone to say they didn't fucking nail it. It was totally perfect.
Rumour has it the extended edition will have the whole entire thing. Every single riddle direct from the book.

Means not a lot to me. They scored a perfect ten with the theatrical version.

[McParadigm]

I agree that the riddle scene was well done. If they were only going to do one thing right (and, roughly, that's about how much they did), I'm glad it was that.

I wrote this in the Man of Smash thread, but it applies to the first Hobbit movie even moreso:

I figure, if you imagine them coming to you with a particular movie before release and asking, "Should we call it a wrap on this, or can you point to some changes that you feel would be improvements?"....there'll always be some thoughts, sure, but I don't want a movie where I find myself coming up with idea after idea after idea after idea after idea after...

[epilogue]

In all fairness, the *only* scene of any importance in this whole film, was Riddles in the dark. And I defy anyone to say they didn't fucking nail it. It was totally perfect.
Rumour has it the extended edition will have the whole entire thing. Every single riddle direct from the book.

Means not a lot to me. They scored a perfect ten with the theatrical version.

That's totally fair. And I completely agree. They did nail it. And that made me very happy.

[dimejinky99]

Lads. I have no fucking idea where you're gonna put it, but this would be cool as shit to win.
Huge big sideshow weta Sauron statue
Free entry and worldwide.
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/09 ... t-contest/

And a review

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/09 ... at-review/