jwfocker wrote:Constantly impressed by this show. It really is its own little world. I enjoy the subtle connections to Breaking Bad but I seem to enjoy the characters more in Better Call Saul.
Breaking Bad was a character piece for Walt, whereas we're getting more fleshed out support characters in Saul. Mike is as much a lead as Saul in some respects. It's helpful that there are established characters being presented, because they can focus more on their mythology as opposed to getting to know them first.
I get that. I wasn't confused. I think I'm just surprised.
jwfocker wrote:Constantly impressed by this show. It really is its own little world. I enjoy the subtle connections to Breaking Bad but I seem to enjoy the characters more in Better Call Saul.
Breaking Bad was a character piece for Walt, whereas we're getting more fleshed out support characters in Saul. Mike is as much a lead as Saul in some respects. It's helpful that there are established characters being presented, because they can focus more on their mythology as opposed to getting to know them first.
I get that. I wasn't confused. I think I'm just surprised.
I didn't think you were you confused, just thinking out loud to see if people agree or not.
jwfocker wrote:Constantly impressed by this show. It really is its own little world. I enjoy the subtle connections to Breaking Bad but I seem to enjoy the characters more in Better Call Saul.
Breaking Bad was a character piece for Walt, whereas we're getting more fleshed out support characters in Saul. Mike is as much a lead as Saul in some respects. It's helpful that there are established characters being presented, because they can focus more on their mythology as opposed to getting to know them first.
I just had a tough time empathizing with Walt and Jessie. In BB S1, Walt puts a dollar amount on how much he needs to make from meth to secure his family's future. It's a great moment for his character. But then he gets greedy, and seems to savor the lifestyle. And I always hated Jessie (though I think Aaron Paul did a great job with the character). He's a whiny victim who came from a good home, and opted to pursue this path for reasons that still aren't entirely clear to me. I never felt bad for him, not once. He was free to walk away any time he wanted.
You do realize the show is titled Breaking Bad for a reason, right?
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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jwfocker wrote:Constantly impressed by this show. It really is its own little world. I enjoy the subtle connections to Breaking Bad but I seem to enjoy the characters more in Better Call Saul.
Breaking Bad was a character piece for Walt, whereas we're getting more fleshed out support characters in Saul. Mike is as much a lead as Saul in some respects. It's helpful that there are established characters being presented, because they can focus more on their mythology as opposed to getting to know them first.
I just had a tough time empathizing with Walt and Jessie. In BB S1, Walt puts a dollar amount on how much he needs to make from meth to secure his family's future. It's a great moment for his character. But then he gets greedy, and seems to savor the lifestyle. And I always hated Jessie (though I think Aaron Paul did a great job with the character). He's a whiny victim who came from a good home, and opted to pursue this path for reasons that still aren't entirely clear to me. I never felt bad for him, not once. He was free to walk away any time he wanted.
You do realize the show is titled Breaking Bad for a reason, right?
I honestly have no idea what that phrase means.
Whitebread, boring Walter White suddenly becoming a criminal is an example of someone breaking bad. Jesse even refers to this early on when he finds out why Walt is cooking meth because a guy like him doesn't just break bad without a reason.
Better put: the show is titled breaking bad because it is about the moral evolution of the characters. Walt is the lead and he suffers from a moral degradation throughout the series.
my take on the DIL: I think she's conning him.
That character is not in BB, but I bet she's still around. Mike is not the primary caregiver. He even leaves abandons his granddaughter at a playground that one time when the cops come around. It broke his heart to do it, but he did it.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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I think maybe she's suffering from PTSD? Her husband was recently murdered and her father-in-law recently confessed to killing his murderers. She is in Breaking Bad, although only seen briefly during one scene in the fifth season. It's not the same actress but Vince Gilligan confirmed on the Better Call Saul Insider podcast that it is the same character.
Anders wrote:I do not have a «neoliberal assessment of geopolitics», so please stop writing that I do.
theplatypus wrote:I think maybe she's suffering from PTSD? Her husband was recently murdered and her father-in-law recently confessed to killing his murderers. She is in Breaking Bad, although only seen briefly during one scene in the fifth season. It's not the same actress but Vince Gilligan confirmed on the Better Call Saul Insider podcast that it is the same character.
Awesome, even better. As I think about, you guys may be right. Why would she think Mike has the dough to buy her a house? And what's so terrible about that house? Poor girl.
jwfocker wrote:Constantly impressed by this show. It really is its own little world. I enjoy the subtle connections to Breaking Bad but I seem to enjoy the characters more in Better Call Saul.
Breaking Bad was a character piece for Walt, whereas we're getting more fleshed out support characters in Saul. Mike is as much a lead as Saul in some respects. It's helpful that there are established characters being presented, because they can focus more on their mythology as opposed to getting to know them first.
I just had a tough time empathizing with Walt and Jessie. In BB S1, Walt puts a dollar amount on how much he needs to make from meth to secure his family's future. It's a great moment for his character. But then he gets greedy, and seems to savor the lifestyle. And I always hated Jessie (though I think Aaron Paul did a great job with the character). He's a whiny victim who came from a good home, and opted to pursue this path for reasons that still aren't entirely clear to me. I never felt bad for him, not once. He was free to walk away any time he wanted.
You do realize the show is titled Breaking Bad for a reason, right?
I was going to say this yesterday but I didn't have the strength.