Star Wars: Clone Wars
- dimejinky99
- what on earth am I talking about
- Posts: 39789
- Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am
Star Wars: Clone Wars
I'm in season two of clone wars and one thing I'm not getting. The clones all seem super smart but obviously programmed to be totally obedient to their superiors. But how Could they have executed order 66 when they're most obedient to obi wan or whichever Jedi was leading their respective units?
I'm assuming they've never individually met the chancellor/emperor so why suddenly follow his order?
I'm assuming they've never individually met the chancellor/emperor so why suddenly follow his order?
Last edited by dimejinky99 on Thu March 10, 2016 11:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
- B
- Troglodyte
- Posts: 24952
- Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 9:53 pm
- Twitter: https://bsky.app/profile/rectormsw.bsky.social
- Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Wouldn't that be some kind of subconscious programming that kicks in on command?
Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
- dimejinky99
- what on earth am I talking about
- Posts: 39789
- Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Yeah maybe. I'm hoping they set up the explanation as the series goes on. I'm only midway through season two
Calibrate your enthusiasm
- CopperTom
- Champion of RM
- Posts: 10759
- Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 11:19 pm
- Location: Northeastern Pennsylvania
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
That doesn't need to be explained. They're made.
emanon wrote:I think I either need to drink less to become more alert, or more so as not to care.
- spike
- The Master
- Posts: 35444
- Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
that's exactly what it isB wrote:Wouldn't that be some kind of subconscious programming that kicks in on command?
- B
- Troglodyte
- Posts: 24952
- Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 9:53 pm
- Twitter: https://bsky.app/profile/rectormsw.bsky.social
- Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Having watched all of Clone Wars, I can tell you that you're not going to get a lot of answers. There are some hints about it. One episode in particular where it activates unexpected for one of the soldiers. But ... subconscious programming. Done.dimejinky99 wrote:Yeah maybe. I'm hoping they set up the explanation as the series goes on. I'm only midway through season two
Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
- B
- Troglodyte
- Posts: 24952
- Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 9:53 pm
- Twitter: https://bsky.app/profile/rectormsw.bsky.social
- Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA
Re: Star Wars: Clone Wars
Been a while since we created a new Star Wars thread. 
Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
- spike
- The Master
- Posts: 35444
- Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am
Re: Star Wars: Clone Wars
create a sub forum
- Simple Torture
- I Have A Third Nipple
- Posts: 21558
- Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:41 am
- Location: Cumberland, RI
Re: Star Wars: Clone Wars
chud is going to be pumpedB wrote:Been a while since we created a new Star Wars thread.
McParadigm wrote:lol
- bada
- Looks Like a Cat
- Posts: 12504
- Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:53 pm
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Yeah its been pretty firmly established.spike wrote:that's exactly what it isB wrote:Wouldn't that be some kind of subconscious programming that kicks in on command?
- McParadigm
- NEVER STOP JAMMING!
- Posts: 22393
- Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am
Re: Star Wars: Clone Wars
What Clone Wars did exceptionally well was take a stupid idea (if the Republic uses a clone army then it's like no one is dying so it won't be upsetting right?) and unwrite it. The Jedi/Sith stuff is hit or miss (although better nearer the end), but they did a great job of humanizing the clones by giving them unique personalities and a helping of bitterness about being treated as disposable trash. I like that "I am going to be an individual" is a choice they have to actively make and act on, and therefore something they guard intensely.
There are a handful of stories that really break down the implications of all that, too. A general who is willing to amass huge clone casualties for small gains, and their total inability to prevent that. A clone who appears to have a behavioral error, and is taken back to Kamino to be dissected without any rights of his own. It's the sort of "let's explore the moral ambiguity of this seemingly 'better' approach to war" writing that's probably more associated with Star Trek than anything, but some of the more interesting stories to come out of Star Wars are in those Clone episodes. I suppose a lot of options open up when you step away from Jedi stuff and see what else is out there.
There are a handful of stories that really break down the implications of all that, too. A general who is willing to amass huge clone casualties for small gains, and their total inability to prevent that. A clone who appears to have a behavioral error, and is taken back to Kamino to be dissected without any rights of his own. It's the sort of "let's explore the moral ambiguity of this seemingly 'better' approach to war" writing that's probably more associated with Star Trek than anything, but some of the more interesting stories to come out of Star Wars are in those Clone episodes. I suppose a lot of options open up when you step away from Jedi stuff and see what else is out there.
(patriotic choking noises)
- dimejinky99
- what on earth am I talking about
- Posts: 39789
- Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am
Re: Star Wars: Clone Wars
Thanks lads.
I really enjoyed the episode in rebels where they're stuck in some desert planet and a bunch of older gay clones help them out. That was fun.
I really enjoyed the episode in rebels where they're stuck in some desert planet and a bunch of older gay clones help them out. That was fun.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
- McParadigm
- NEVER STOP JAMMING!
- Posts: 22393
- Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am
Re: Star Wars: Clone Wars
I always enjoyed the summary that Star Wars is the story of an old man who takes a younger man to a bar.dimejinky99 wrote:Thanks lads.
I really enjoyed the episode in rebels where they're stuck in some desert planet and a bunch of older gay clones help them out. That was fun.
(patriotic choking noises)
- dimejinky99
- what on earth am I talking about
- Posts: 39789
- Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am
Re: Star Wars: Clone Wars
McParadigm wrote:I always enjoyed the summary that Star Wars is the story of an old man who takes a younger man to a bar.dimejinky99 wrote:Thanks lads.
I really enjoyed the episode in rebels where they're stuck in some desert planet and a bunch of older gay clones help them out. That was fun.
Never thought of that. And they meet a bear
Calibrate your enthusiasm
- McParadigm
- NEVER STOP JAMMING!
- Posts: 22393
- Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am
- dimejinky99
- what on earth am I talking about
- Posts: 39789
- Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am
Re: Star Wars: Clone Wars
This gets really great in season three. The stuff about the sisters and Mauls tribe. Those two episodes are as good as films.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
- dimejinky99
- what on earth am I talking about
- Posts: 39789
- Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am
Re: Star Wars: Clone Wars
Sure is an alarming amount of racial stereotyping in this show.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
- spike
- The Master
- Posts: 35444
- Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am
Re: Star Wars: Clone Wars
please, go on...dimejinky99 wrote:Sure is an alarming amount of racial stereotyping in this show.
- Simple Torture
- I Have A Third Nipple
- Posts: 21558
- Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:41 am
- Location: Cumberland, RI
Re: Star Wars: Clone Wars
spike wrote:please, go on...dimejinky99 wrote:Sure is an alarming amount of racial stereotyping in this show.
"Prease, go ron."
McParadigm wrote:lol
- E.H. Ruddock
- Guys, I am not a moderator! I swear to God! Why does everyone think I'm a moderator?
- Posts: 51786
- Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm