Star Wars: Rogue One

[Simple Torture]

I read this report (which claims to be the largest analysis of film dialogue by gender, ever) yesterday:

http://polygraph.cool/films/

It's an interesting read. And it's telling that even a movie like TFA, with strong female leads, still gives the majority of its dialogue to male characters.

Also, coupling this will so many other comments I've seen about how disappointing it is that, though we are seeing more female leads, they're all white women. Even in the R1 trailer, we see... what two female characters? Both white. Sometimes it feels like the illusion of progress.

There are a lot of different conversations around all of this, I just though it was interesting and relevant to some of the things we were talking about yesterday.

For the record, the trailer passed the Bechdel-Wallace test.

1) The movie has to have at least two women in it,
2) who talk to each other,
3) about something besides a man.

Yeah, but what I think that article and Joey are getting at is that the Bechdel test has serious limits--as in, it doesn't cover how often women get to speak in a film, or how women are portrayed.

[Simple Torture]

the female lead role tokenism

You sound like the thirteen-year-old mouth-breathers who comment on YouTube.

[bada]

Don't worry Disney will buy him off.

[LoathedVermin72]

the female lead role tokenism

You sound like the thirteen-year-old mouth-breathers who comment on YouTube.

For real. I can't imagine how her casting came off as "tokenism" in that trailer unless someone went in with a prejudiced mindset.

[E.H. Ruddock]

Guys don't fuck up the fun in this thread please. Take your political mumbo jumbo somewhere else

[LoathedVermin72]

9/11 was an inside job

[BurtReynolds]

But does she have to be such an asshat? I really don't like these characters.

[BurtReynolds]

Are we ever gonna see any Bothans in this!? or was that the second Death Star? That's all I really care about.

[@SkitchP]

Take your political mumbo jumbo somewhere else

So make a rogue one prequel thread?

[dprival78]

sounds like a bunch of whiny white guys in this thread

[E.H. Ruddock]

sounds like a bunch of whiny white guys in this thread

Welcome to the board!

[dprival78]

sounds like a bunch of whiny white guys in this thread

Welcome to the board!

[epilogue]

Are we ever gonna see any Bothans in this!? or was that the second Death Star? That's all I really care about.

The second one.

[BurtReynolds]

Are we ever gonna see any Bothans in this!? or was that the second Death Star? That's all I really care about.

The second one.

well that's just great. They're making the wrong stealing-Death-Star-plans movie. What a bunch of dumbshits.

[epilogue]

Are we ever gonna see any Bothans in this!? or was that the second Death Star? That's all I really care about.

The second one.

well that's just great. They're making the wrong stealing-Death-Star-plans movie. What a bunch of dumbshits.

Don't worry, they'll get around to that one. It'll be Rogue One 2 in Dec of 2021.

[VinylGuy]

¨Rogue Two is an intriguing new chapter in the star wars franchise, in a parallel universe where A New Hope dont exist¨

[epilogue]

¨Rogue Two is an intriguing new chapter in the star wars franchise, in a parallel universe where A New Hope dont exist¨

Now there's your fucking movie! Someone give this man $200 million!

[dimejinky99]

the female lead role tokenism

You sound like the thirteen-year-old mouth-breathers who comment on YouTube.

I wasn't accusing them of tokenism. The YouTube keyboard warrior types are. Probably the same ones that complained that a lead role was given to a black guy back when Finn first popped up in the teasers for force awakens.


I do think it's interesting they went with a female lead again though. They now have two struggles on their hands. Making it clear to the general public that R1 isn't a follow up to FA and no that isn't Rey in this film.

I've been asked both of these things a number of times now.

[E.H. Ruddock]

the female lead role tokenism

You sound like the thirteen-year-old mouth-breathers who comment on YouTube.

I wasn't accusing them of tokenism. The YouTube keyboard warrior types are. Probably the same ones that complained that a lead role was given to a black guy back when Finn first popped up in the teasers for force awakens.


I do think it's interesting they went with a female lead again though. They now have two struggles on their hands. Making it clear to the general public that R1 isn't a follow up to FA and no that isn't Rey in this film.

I've been asked both of these things a number of times now.

Yes but if it turns out to be Rey's mom in R1 then it will all smooth out.

[LoathedVermin72]

Do people actually think it's Rey?